treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity

[fa_ikaika]

Recently I've been thinking about the way that bourgeois people of all races are being offered selected opportunities to become part of the white race.

This comes partly from thinking about conservative AsAm and Latino support for "model minority" status and for the idea that the "system" is fair (see also Lani Guinier's critique of "meritocracy

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[recumbentgoat]

people of all races are being offered selected opportunities to become part of the white race

yellowmix gave me this article about how the assimilation pressures of the time actually got other poc to think of 'becoming white' legally--because they also weren't black.

It's such a weird way of thinking--talk about twisting yourself into pretzel shapes to fit in--but there you go.

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[recumbentgoat]

I just read both angiej's posts---and they're incredible. She's right--the white liberal tradition has no inclination for change when they're quite comfortable.

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[ebonbird]

angiej appears to have what I'd call a beautiful mind.

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[fa_ikaika]

acha! I just realized your icon is John Brown. Big ups bro!

[ebonbird]

I have several questions that are related to this. I've been mulling over these questions like how. Some of them are:

Am I an aspiring racist?

When I make jokes about not being a racist because I do not own, by proxy or otherwise, the debt of nations, neither do my people, but hope that one day that my kids will, what do I mean by that?

Just how concerned, really, am I about mercy and justice?

And...is America's problem not that it's a white supremacist culture, but that so many Americans are black by definition of the 'one drop rule' and are pissed as hell that until that was hideable, they couldn't benefit from American privilege at home or abroad?

[fa_ikaika]

Man I love it when you come out to play. Ayo's going to be mad she missed this

[delux_vivens]

hah! i'm lurkerriffic.

[ebonbird]

Now see, that's just a little skurry. ...Oh wait, I'm not a self-hating negro who's frightened of physical appearances that contravene 'white' aesthetics so I'll just look at the pretty.

[chreebomb]

i totally missed these womanhood posts! *will come back tomorrow with thoughts*

[ebonbird]

I am looking forward to them. Also, your icon embodies 'sparkle pretty' for me.

[chreebomb]

oh crap. i didn't close the tag!

let's try again:

(i like the pretty. :) ok. thoughts. somewhat coherent. or not.)

Thus ‘white women, as a group, are subordinated through seduction, women of Color, as a group, through rejection’ we've discussed many times about the differences between white women and black women* in the struggle. and i think that this paragraph really puts it into context. the fight for equity (not equality) is framed differently depending on your ethnicity/race. and so, our actions differ. our attitudes. our perceptions of self and of other women. white women have long feared black women. black women who proved alluring to white men. black women who couldn't say no because their lives depended on it. black women who were not seen as women, so it was okay to brutalize, objectify, and take them at will. white women, in a position of considerably more power, were in a place to further oppress black women. and that had ramifications for black children and black men as well, as angiej wrote so well

[fa_ikaika]

very true. Thanks for your thoughts