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strawberryfrog May 13 2012, 10:27:11 UTC
Hm, random comments.

Batman has been about grit and angst for quite a long time, Nolan just carried on that mood. Very well, actually.

I hadn't thought of Banner/Hulk as Jekyll and Hyde but yes, it's obvious. IMHO they did a lot with a little in that character.

A clever bit of visual fanservice? roots? play? - Tony Stark wears a faded Black Sabbath t-shirt several times, like it's his favourite shirt.

Have you seen this - What If The Male Avengers Posed Like The Female One??

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extemporanea May 16 2012, 19:33:55 UTC
Hulk is the first parallel my second-years always come up with when we're discussing Jekyll & Hyde. It's actually a very compelling archetype that may well go back to things like two-faced gods and what have you.

I like the poses page. Similar to the ones done by Jim Hines, who actually puts himself into the cover girl poses, to amusing and politically pointed effect. (The link at the bottom, to an attempt by a contortionist and martial artist to replicate comic book girl poses, is also interesting).

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Black Sabbath first_fallen May 13 2012, 12:51:03 UTC
Disturbingly, copies of that Iron Man t-shirt that TS wears is fetching stonkloads of monies on Ebay. Sigh. I really hope this doesn't inspire a generation of Sabbath fans purely because it seems Tony is a fan :(. Hipster metalheads, urgh.

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herne_kzn May 14 2012, 12:45:49 UTC
I was also exceedingly happy about the way just about each of them had a moment of victory over Loki, despite the stonkingly different power levels. With BW's social-fu and Hulk's...well...smash being rather nice brackets at either end.

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vesta_aurelia May 16 2012, 04:05:11 UTC
You're a Captain America fan? You mean, I'm not ALONE in a sea of "Iron Man rooolz!"?

It's a relief, I tell you.

CA reminds me, actually, of Aral Vorkosigan: characters with a deep inner core of self-governance, whose acts spring from that core, unconsciously.

Black Widow is Bothari, flexible morals and all; Fury is Ezar, using them all for a better peace. Loki, of course, is Vorrutyer, being dragged down by forces he doesn't really understand. They aren't perfect parallels, and not all of them (as I don't think Iron Man and Miles are quite enough alike), but the structural similarities really struck me.

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extemporanea May 16 2012, 19:25:33 UTC
hooray! Captain America fangirls of the world unite! it'll make him blush.

I tend to attribute my levels of liking for the character to the fact that finally, thank heavens, I seem to have kicked the tendency to fall for bad boys. Because, oy. And the Capt is just so decent!.

Your Bujold parallels are interesting, but surely it's more the case that both sets are composed of readily recognisable heroic archetypes who also work well together? the Commander, the Tactician, etc. Also, I feel that there's a darkness in Aral - albeit one he has controlled - that simply doesn't exist in the Capt, who strikes me as being pretty much vanilla all through.

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pinkthulhu May 17 2012, 21:08:29 UTC
I'm surprised they didnt mention Thor's animal companion:

http://weknowmemes.com/2012/05/thors-dog/

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