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Jan 06, 2010 17:02


Your result for The Fan Fiction Personality Test...
The Mindgamer

Everything is possible, nothing is ever really over.

Fanfiction is a creative outlet for you. You don't intentionally write it, it just happens. You find inspiration in several fandoms, but are not obsessed with only one.

You like to explore "what if" situations. What if this character ( Read more... )

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aubrem January 6 2010, 16:45:32 UTC
I don't throw the word "nazi" around and I shudder at the casual use of the word "rape" in strange contexts, etc etc. These are powerful words and shouldn't be cheapened for shock value.

On the other hand, I'd never tell someone else what to say - especially in their own journal. I wouldn't in public forums either. Maaaaaaybe if they said something offensive in comments in my own journal I'd speak up. It kind of shocks me the way so many fannish people think they have the right to tell other people what to do.

If I felt that someone was using a word and just plain didn't know the impact they were having with it, I might email them privately to explain - in case they were interested, in case they cared. They might appreciate the info.

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etrangere January 6 2010, 17:00:15 UTC
Interesting point.

I think I would definitely say something to someone if they commented on my own journal, but in someone else's journal it depends a lot of who is the person I'm talking to. I thought they would be receptive to it (and was obviously wrong).

Possibly as you say, I underestimated how much people consider that they can say what they want on their own journal - which isn't an illegitimate feeling in itself, especially for something relatively mild like "canon nazi".

Possibly the more private form of comments would work better!

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luminaire January 6 2010, 16:50:05 UTC
Your journal is your journal. I respect your right to say whatever you want in it, even if I don't like what you have to say. I expect the same respect in return.

If you said something so offensive where I felt compelled to speak out, I would at least let you know why it upset me rather than a curt "don't say that again".

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deeplyunhip January 6 2010, 16:57:11 UTC
IAWTC!

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etrangere January 6 2010, 17:01:26 UTC
Your journal is your journal. I respect your right to say whatever you want in it, even if I don't like what you have to say. I expect the same respect in return.
I underestimated this feeling, but it's a fair point (within some limits, but "canon nazi" probably doesn't breach it).

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luminaire January 6 2010, 17:33:32 UTC
I don't think it breaches it either, but then I've heard it used mainly as a joking term. I didn't realize before your incident that it could be offensive, so I guess I'm enlightened now. Huzzah for rational conversation. But it sounds like, in your case, the offended party simply kicked you to the curb, which is a kneejerk reaction imo.

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flo_nelja January 6 2010, 16:51:47 UTC
I can't say without the context.

Was it used as an insult, comparing people who oppose to OOC to nazis ?

Or did the offense come from the fact the word was used in a playful, non serious way "I can be such a canon nazi sometimes".

If I was to use the first sense (I don't think I would), I'd edit and apologize.

If I was to use the second sense (the only one I would use, so I replied to your poll in this sense), I'd sigh about people being easily offended, and edit it, replacing it with "canon psychorigid", because I don't like to offend people anyway.

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etrangere January 6 2010, 17:04:11 UTC
Or did the offense come from the fact the word was used in a playful, non serious way "I can be such a canon nazi sometimes".
That one.

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flo_nelja January 6 2010, 17:10:25 UTC
Bon, alors voilà : je changerais le post, mais sans me sentir intérieusement désolée.

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etrangere January 6 2010, 17:15:58 UTC
Pas besoin de t'excuser ^^ De ses réponses seulement les options "calling them names", "ignore" et "delete & defriend" m'énervent vraiment (parceque c'est un peu un cas ambigue).

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trobadora January 6 2010, 16:52:34 UTC
I would never use that kind of language. And if someone on my flist did, I'd assume they didn't mean to - that they just accidentally let an offensive term slip through because they'd heard it too often. If someone made them aware of it, I'd expect an instant "oops, sorry! I did not mean to say that."

Clearly I'm overly optimistic.

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etrangere January 6 2010, 17:06:10 UTC
... that was exactly my assumption. Clearly, I'm overly optimistic too.

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rosehiptea January 6 2010, 16:59:13 UTC
I wouldn't use it in the first place.

If someone objected to a term I do use, I'd probably apologize and edit, unless I had a really good reason that I wanted to explain.

But I'd be very unlikely to speak out about it if someone else did use the term. The only time I tried to explain to someone that they were offending me in such a way it went very, very badly.

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etrangere January 6 2010, 17:09:04 UTC
The only time I tried to explain to someone that they were offending me in such a way it went very, very badly.
Indeed!!

I wish discussions about such things and requests like that could happen more easily without provoking so much ruffled feelings and general wankiness, but clearly that's too much to ask :(

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