From Hollywood to the academy, nonbelievers are convinced that a decline in traditional religious belief would lead to a smarter, more scientifically literate and even more civilized populace
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I can sort of see that point. I just dislike seeing my beliefs listed as "irrational", and it sort of set me off. It's also connected to the fact that I grew up in a conservative protestant church like the ones they mention who don't believe in these things...and I am sick of hearing from the people I grew up with that anything "supernatural" in the Bible doesn't really exist, while they cling to the moral bits as a weapon against people they disagree with. I don't like that I was attacked for not following the Bible when they don't even believe in it.
I agree with your view on marriage. If it's a religious issue at all, it should not be a state one. Everyone can have the same legal partnership, and let the church sort out the religious aspect.
aside from link, this is not directed at the above poster, i am just too lazy to make a double post.thenewleafturnsSeptember 23 2008, 13:49:41 UTC
"Calling aspirin "lethal" may have been a bit extreme, but don't assume it's completely harmless." o rly?On a more serious note, About the first article, and as an agnostic leaning towards atheistic tendencies, Bill Maher is a dickhead - he's as bad as the other side in terms of intolerance and misinformation (imho) - but the article is very leading in terms of what it presents and how it presents it. I find the insinuation that religion lends more common sense than the alternative to be fatuous and somewhat typical of the "ha ha, we've got god, what the heck do you have" attitude of some religious extremish (not extremists but tending that way) rantings I've stumbled across. It seems to be a normal reaction to become annoyed at somebody arguing you are more irrational than their defined norms, so call me normal
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I can sort of see that point. I just dislike seeing my beliefs listed as "irrational", and it sort of set me off. It's also connected to the fact that I grew up in a conservative protestant church like the ones they mention who don't believe in these things...and I am sick of hearing from the people I grew up with that anything "supernatural" in the Bible doesn't really exist, while they cling to the moral bits as a weapon against people they disagree with. I don't like that I was attacked for not following the Bible when they don't even believe in it.
I agree with your view on marriage. If it's a religious issue at all, it should not be a state one. Everyone can have the same legal partnership, and let the church sort out the religious aspect.
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o rly?On a more serious note, About the first article, and as an agnostic leaning towards atheistic tendencies, Bill Maher is a dickhead - he's as bad as the other side in terms of intolerance and misinformation (imho) - but the article is very leading in terms of what it presents and how it presents it. I find the insinuation that religion lends more common sense than the alternative to be fatuous and somewhat typical of the "ha ha, we've got god, what the heck do you have" attitude of some religious extremish (not extremists but tending that way) rantings I've stumbled across. It seems to be a normal reaction to become annoyed at somebody arguing you are more irrational than their defined norms, so call me normal ( ... )
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