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superfr0g August 4 2012, 16:33:28 UTC
Oh wow, this sounds tough! ...that doesn't mean I'm not tempted to try it, though. xD

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esmeiolanthe August 4 2012, 17:12:57 UTC
It is indeed extremely hard! My personal best is getting my Sim all the way to Child -- but he dropped out of platinum juuuuuuust before transitioning, so when he hit Child he was in the very high Gold. Which was two whole days better than my previous best, I believe. That should give you some idea. :(

But if you decide to try it, best of luck to you! :D

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katrisims August 4 2012, 18:34:33 UTC
Sounds like a tough challenge! If I'm bored with what I have on my plate right now, I might give it a shot at some point (or try it as part of my regular stuff, hmm).

I remember we were talking about this earlier, and I believe my sims would make this challenge, as it stands, impossible, as all or nearly all of them drop out of platinum when age transitioning, despite being very high platinum when the transition starts, and the time not being anywhere near an even hour. (I purposedly watched closely as the next toddler aged in my game, and this was exactly what happened. They even got aspiration points for growing up well, and went from high platinum to gold for no other apparent reason than the transition.)

I don't know if it's just what my game does (it's always done this) but if not, you might consider amending the rules for that - perhaps a time period to get back to platinum if a transition "unfairly" drops you to gold or something? :) It's not as cool as staying in platinum all the time but...

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esmeiolanthe August 4 2012, 18:44:46 UTC
I do remember having that discussion a while back, now that you mention it...

I'd never noticed that happening in my game, and I haven't paid attention since, so I don't know if it's all games or just yours. However, I will keep an eye out for it now. If it's something that's unavoidably programmed into the game, then I agree that the rules should be tweaked a bit. Most of my Sims tend to transition in gold and then shoot up to platinum with the fulfillment of the 'Grow Up Well" want, so I'll have to run some experiments.

In the event that the game unfairly drops a Sims out of platinum as a matter of course, how long do you think sounds fair to get them back to platinum? I'm thinking two or three game hours, since they should be pretty close already, but I'm open to suggestions.

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katrisims August 4 2012, 19:01:56 UTC
I'd be curious to hear what you find if you do investigate this. :)

I'd tend to agree that something fairly short, at least my experience is that they'll be in fairly high gold after the transition when it happens. If you give toddlers 24 hours to get platinum, then at most that, probably less. Toddlers tend to have sort of easy wants compared to older sims (though on the other hand they start in green while presumably older sims in this challenge will be in gold), so maybe a bit more than 2 to 3 hours still. Eeny meeny miney mo... 12? (Now that sounds too much, oh I don't know...) Depends on how hard a challenge you want to make it, too. :)

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esmeiolanthe August 4 2012, 20:17:05 UTC
Older Sims in this challenge shouldn't be below gold if it's just a matter of the game being unfair, so 24 hours -- or even 12 -- is probably a bit much. On the other hand, if they roll "Go to Uni" and "Have First Kiss," those could take a while to fulfill...

I haven't got any sims ready to transition just yet (except for one baby-to-toddler, which doesn't count) but I will keep you posted!

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lorinsv60 August 4 2012, 18:43:49 UTC
This looks like something fun to try.

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esmeiolanthe August 4 2012, 18:45:41 UTC
It's fun to try, but it's also HARD. My personal best is three days out of four in the Toddler stage. If you decide to try, best of luck! :D

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nightbreaking August 4 2012, 22:46:25 UTC
Gah, I have Freetime...But maybe I could try not to fill up the lifetime bar? I don't know how long it takes to do that, but....

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esmeiolanthe August 4 2012, 23:05:41 UTC
I don't know how long it takes either, but I believe there are certain life milestones that do it. You don't want to avoid hitting those, as I think they often give a lot of aspiration, but I'm sure it takes longer than the transition from Toddler to Child, which I my personal best. Like I say, if you can manage that, you can declare yourself /a/ Simming Goddess -- and that ain't bad. :)

If you decide to try, best of luck! :D

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katrisims August 5 2012, 06:40:29 UTC
I don't know for certain how it works, but my impression is that it's affected by some milestones (getting married, having your first kid, maxing a skill...), and in addition it's affected by what your aspiration level is from day to day. Basically, they higher your aspiration is, the faster the lifetime meter fills up, and the faster you gain the benefit points.

My born-in-game sims, who tend to be fairly high in aspiration whenever I can help it (when they drop to green I'm already looking for ways to fullfill some wants for them), tend to get the meter full a bit after graduating college. So unless they are loaded with skillpoints and get really lucky with the paper/computer, they tend to get permaplat before I'm able to have them fullfill a career-related LTW. So I'd say that if you were to keep a sim platinum all the time and you have FT, then you would end up filling up the lifetime meter, possibly sometime in college.

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esmeiolanthe August 5 2012, 11:27:37 UTC
That makes sense. Thank you, Katri! :D

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