Giving multiculturalism a bad name

[erudito]

So, the Gillard Government, starting with the PM herself, is already distancing itself from a taxpayer-funded study which claimed that celebrating the centenary of ANZAC could be divisive. This shows that the Gillard Government is not suicidally stupid

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[yamamanama]

Australia has a culture?

[yamamanama]

Look at this twerp, like he's Captain Australia or something.

http:// home. exetel. com .au/tplatform/images/Bashings1.jpg

[jordan179]

So all Australians deserve to be physically-attacked because a few Australians, who were presumably-treated as criminals by the Australian government, killed a Chinese girl?

Hmm, let's follow this logic. Chinese people, under direct orders from their government, have killed something like a hundred million people, of which tens of millions were civilians killed without provocation and at least hundreds of thousands were non-Chinese in countries China invaded. Does that mean that all Chinese people deserve to be physically-attacked?

If no, why not? If yes, the problem is that the morality of the complete annihilation of the human race logically follows from your premises, for all human nations are at least as guilty of criminal assault and battery including first-degree murder as are the Australians.

Rethink your premises.

[yamamanama]

I merely said Australians suck. And that the Cronulla rioters are scumbags who should inject syringes filled with cone snail venom in their genitals.

Your reading comprehension is atrocious. No wonder Preludes gave you so much trouble.

[jordan179]

Then you have failed to answer my point that the Muslims, in point of fact, started the riots. Hence, your argument that it was primarily the fault of the Australians fails. That argument failing, all that you are left with is naked, irrational hatred of Australians, and you are exposed for the worthless little Bizarro worm that you are in truth.

Go slink back into your hole, foul worm.

[yamamanama]

If the Australians are beating up Muslims and even people they suspect of being Muslims, then it's their god damn fault.

If it happened the other way around and Arabs were beating the shit out of Australians, then you'd blame the Arabs and say Australia should deport them.

[jordan179]

If you read the wiki link, you'll see that it did happen the other way round -- the riots started after a Muslim gang randomly attacked Australian lifeguards and other beachgoers. That's what I meant when I said "It was at least half the fault of the Muslims."

[yamamanama]

But the âssholes had no right to riot and beat up random Arabs and suspected Arabs. So there.

[jordan179]

But the âssholes had no right to riot and beat up random Arabs and suspected Arabs.

Exactly, which is why I said "at least half the fault of the Muslims." Had the only Muslims to be attacked been the actual rioters, it would have been entirely the fault of the Muslims.

[yamamanama]

Far far less than half.

The Australians have no one to blame for attacking innocents but themselves. Fuck Australia.

[jordan179]

And the Muslim immigrants have no one to blame for attacking innocents but themselves. Fuck Muslim immigrants.

Having said that, the moral symmetry breaks, because

(1) The Muslim immigrants started the cycle of attack-counterattack in this case, and

(2) The Muslim immigrants are just that -- immigrants -- it is up to them to learn to live at peace with the natives, more so than the other way round

and hence the majority of the blame goes to the Muslim immigrants. Q.E.D.

[yamamanama]

If the Australians wanted them to live in peace, they wouldn't be attacking people for being Lebanese.

I thought you were a fan of collective punishment. Does it only apply to people who aren't of western European descent?

Let me know when Australia's music scene becomes as vibrant as Indonesia's, Malaysia's, or Pakistan's.

[jordan179]

If the Australians wanted them to live in peace, they wouldn't be attacking people for being Lebanese.

Since the Lebanese first attacked people for living being Australian, we must conclude (by your logic) that the Lebanese did not want to live in peace. Since the Lebanese (by logical deduction from your just-expressed premises) did not want to live in peace, why were the Australians then obliged to leave them in peace?

I thought you were a fan of collective punishment. Does it only apply to people who aren't of western European descent?

I'm only "a fan of collective punishment" in situations where individual punishment for specific actions is impossible, as in the middle of a war. And descent has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not punishment is collective or individual.

It was wrong for the Lebanese to begin collectively punishing the Australians for no particular reason other than their being Australian, and it was also wrong for the Australians to then retaliate against Lebanese in general. Having said this, you

[yamamanama]

You are blaming all Lebanese for the actions of a few and saying they deserved to be beaten by thugs shouting things like "aussie aussie aussie duh duh duh"

Australia, get a fucking culture that isn't just thuggery. You'll certainly never live up to Indonesia, but it's worth a try.

I'm not blaming the Lebanese as a whole for the actions of a few Lebanese and giving blame to anyone but the Cronulla rioters. Ever.