I think of him now and again, I wonder how his journey ends.

[epea_pteroenta]

EDIT: Unlocked for eolivetOnce upon a time I was a Doctor/Rose shipper. I shipped them from the first season, with Christopher Eccleston. In fact, judging mainly from the fact that I thought the first season was the best written and had the most coherent overarching plot (with beginning, middle and end!), I'd probably describe myself in retrospect as more

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[eolivet]

:D What a beautiful, beautiful post. :) I never thought of the Doctor as Odysseus and Rose as Penelope, but it makes so much sense (like you, I 'shipped Nine/Rose more than Ten/Rose -- and actually, I only found "Doomsday" sad when I thought about it objectively vs. subjectively -- that Rose was "just a girl" and the Doctor did what he always promised: he kept her safe and sent her "home

[epea_pteroenta]

What a beautiful, beautiful post.

Thank you! :)

I only found "Doomsday" sad when I thought about it objectively vs. subjectively -- that Rose was "just a girl" and the Doctor did what he always promised: he kept her safe and sent her "home."

Interesting! Actually, I was SO invested in it, it took me weeks to build up to watching it because I knew how upsetting it would be and then I cried for ages afterwards and felt as devastated as if I were Rose... (I might need to work on my over-identification with fictional characters. It only leads to entirely avoidable heartache and misery!)

I have the first two DW songs on my iPod, but not the third (from the super-depressing Titanic special, I take it?) I always liked them, too -- I was actually shocked that the ending to DW S2 was foreshadowed in "Song for Ten" ("And you're on the other side/ Our time will never come again")Yes, it's from that. And yes, the xmas specials have been getting more and more depressing, haven't they? I cried SO much in the last one with the Dickensian girl

[eolivet]

Actually, I was SO invested in it, it took me weeks to build up to watching it because I knew how upsetting it would be and then I cried for ages afterwards and felt as devastated as if I were Rose...

Ah, and I watched it about a month after it aired, so all I knew was it was "sad," and I just assumed Rose died. So, when I saw she didn't, I was like "What IS your problem, fandom?!" But then I thought about it some more and came up with this reaction. :)

I cried SO much in the last one with the Dickensian girl who died!

OMG, "The Christmas Carol" or whatever that was -- I LOVED that one to itty bitty pieces!!! :) I thought it was marvelous -- and actually, now listening to the third ("Stowaway") song, you can see similar themes, but told differently in terms of RTD's and Moffat's DW. Now the Doctor is no longer Odysseus but... Cupid? He who brings lovers together? But older? I don't know my mythology! :p He brought Kazran and Abigail together in the special. He brought Amy and Rory together. Hmmm...

It's like the Lonely Wanderer'

[epea_pteroenta]

That was a lovely reaction to "Doomsday" - really beautiful and thought provoking! I never thought of comparing Rose to Buffy and those two endings. Hmm, not sure... I think you're right though, that it isn't her story. For Buffy, this was close of the heroine's story, but Rose is, as you say, just a girl. I think that was one of my main problems with RTD's conception of DW. He gave these ordinary companions special powers - Bad Wolf, Donna at the end of S04, Martha going all over the world - but in the end the powers went nowhere and they had to return to being "just a girl" because it's the Doctor's story and only he can have the superpowers.

I think, in an inverse way, this is also my problem with River Song. I find her more interesting as a character-plot than I did, but I find her role as love interest irritating. She may be Rory and Amy's baby and it may turn out she has a bit of the time vortex in her, but she hasn't done anything, hmm... to deserve to be the Doctor's equal. Does that make sense? I'm thinking this out as I go

[impropaganda]

Everyone has their favourite romantic stereotypes

Cough.