Leverage: a mini rant

[emmiere]

Ok, maybe I'm just a little bitchy about this after reading the Dee F!S of fail today, but I was innocently browsing some forums to find out when Leverage was coming back on and

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[emmiere]

Basically someone wrote a secret about how they cheered Dee's suicide because they'd never forgiven her for being mean to Billy. This brought out various angry people and a few anon and non-anon posters showing up to agree.

It's probably unfair for me to assume it's the same person that was doing all the Kara secrets a week or so ago, since the internets are big, but it does look like a secret designed to provoke everybody(look at me be all rational about it this morning! Bad day yesterday apparently). It's definitely not the worst one I've seen on there, but it's no fun to see that in BSG fandom. :(

[sabaceanbabe]

Hey, I like Tara, too. This is pretty much why I call myself the "fandom hermit."

[emmiere]

I'm a little cranky at unexpectedly stumbling into drama for my happy show since I've been blissfully ignoring most of it in my browsing until now. I didn't like Tara as much as Maggie just in this episode, but she played it rather awesomely. So yay for Tara love!

Hermitage is probably a good way to avoid fandom exhaustion. ;)

[beccatoria]

Dee secret makes me sad in my heard. I haven't read all the responses yet but...oy. :(

ALSO THOUGH asta77 showed me the first two eps of Leverage and I LOOOOOOVED IT! I'm totally gonna catch up on the episodes soon! *glee*

[emmiere]

Welcome back, you! :)

I'm still holding out for the option that the Dee person is just deliberately trying to be awful, but it doesn't make me feel better when people AGREE. :/

But Leverage! \o/

I just snuck a glance at your post during work and having another person on my flist getting into the show makes me very gleeful indeed. Even though this post is me whining about how even my happy place show has fans hating on new women characters. *insert confused emoticon*

*sigh*

It's not the kind of thing that makes me want to do tons of serious meta or anything, but, yes it's fun and very easy to speed through. *loves* :)

[lyssie]

Tara was awesome! And Jeri Ryan really seems to like working with them (I heard an interview with her not long ago). So, she seems awesome, too. =D

[emmiere]

Heh, maybe waiting through the hiatus would be easier if I disliked her, but she was just too much fun! My friend watching with me was all, "Look! It's Seven of Nine!" so we had a good time just watching her be awesome. It's good to hear she really is having fun with it.

Speaking of Tara, where did you get your screencaps for the icons you made? The source I was at doesn't have the latest and I was thinking some caps were needed. :)

[lyssie]

I made them from my dvds. Sadly, I don't know where other caps reside. I think someone on one of the Leverage comms was capping from avis, but the one time I tried dl'ing their stuff, it didn't work.

[emmiere]

Bah, I thought you might say that. ;)

I'll dig a little deeper then, because I'm streaming and it's not letting me screenshot it for even bad capping.

[daybreak777]

I just want to let you know that something about those photos makes me go ill in my stomach even though the photography is well done.

We were talking about this the other day in my Dollhouse comments. There is a fine line between showing something is wrong and perpetuating the wrongness. While the photographer may have one intent, you're right, for the casual person coming across this . . .

I don't have many words for it, but I've learned that stomach feeling.

[emmiere]

I apologize if I've made you too uncomfortable by sending you to that link.

And yes, he's a talented photographer, but I don't like the way he's dismissive of any problematic reading of his text either. Even if I do think that being exploitative is not his purpose, it bothered me to see so any people in the reading I did on his work call the photos unsettling and disturbing while praising them. I'd like to think they were subconsciously reacting to what you did and taking that as the intended critique. Which I don't see necessarily, because they seem to be fairly straightforward images.

Somewhere I think the collaborative nature of his process is being lost in the space I see isolating the people he's photographing and that's as close as I can come to putting words to my reaction. It's hard to do when just working of the vague feeling that somethings wrong with this, you're right.

Dollhouse is actually a pretty good comparison, I haven't seen it, so I didn't read your reaction, but it sounds like an interesting one I might

[daybreak777]

Goodness! I must be sleepy today. I mean I've learned to listen to that stomach feeling. But I think you know what I mean. Like you had that feeling you couldn't get over about the portrayal of the Nigerians in District 9. I don't think we should run away from that discomfort. Alarm bells ring for a reason. We shouldn't just accept something put in front of us because maybe the creator had good intents. So I'm glad you posted the links.

Yeah, I don't know how 'collaborative' his work is. But how can we know? All we know is what is put in front of us and how we feel about it.

Oh, and I can't say I'm recommending Dollhouse, either. Yeah, it inspires thinky thoughts, but it is uncomfortable viewing at times and I don't know where they are going with all of that.

[emmiere]

Hmm, no looks like it was me who needed sleep this morning. You're being perfectly clear and I agree. :)

Why always the Nigerians?

And thank you for modifying my "collaborative", it needed it because yeah, it is completely speculative and actually seems to be his most common defense of himself now that I look. Not what I should be following. I have a completely different reaction when I first see these photos than the described intent and that's what's important. I've been checking this casually all day for the mini-explosion it caused in the art photography blogger world. It might just be a very good thing.

Thanks for stopping by for this. :)