You support racists and homophobes simply because they have a right to be racists and homophobes....? Not everything that is legally allowed automatically merits support, but if you're following that logic, you should also equally support the people who 'love everyone' or you're being hypocritical yourself. And you're talking about minorities getting special treatment because they're minorities, but aren't you doing the same thing by recognizing this 'minority' of racists and homophobes??
People who truly preach 'tolerance for all' would recognize the rights of individuals to disagree with them, but tolerate them anyway.
i agree with to_subsist up there. "supporting" something, is a SHIT of a lot different than recognizing it's right to exist. so, you kind of need to differentiate those, and make it clear which one you're actually talking about.
I support them, as their right to believe in what they believe. I support people who love everyone, UNLESS they ridicule homophobes and racists... which they do.
I wonder what outrage would pour out should an anti-gay commercial air. Hell, it wouldn't even, because the CRTC wouldn't allow it. But if we publicly defame the idea of hate, it's OK? What the hell is that? I'm sorry, but the "I love everyone" people who go and spout off about how there's no reason to hate them, they people too, you're so stupid and tradition, or best yet "bible thumpers" are simply a new breed of fascists. Which, they're entitled to be, but the fact they don;t even realize it bothers me.
Trust me, there's a whole fucking LOAD of rascists and homophobes. People who are scared of black people, people who refuse to associate with gays. But the vast majority of them are not crazy and do not attack, defame, or riddicule them publicly.
I support anyone and everyone who isn't a fascist.
I would to like to say, despite not being homophobic, and only slightly racist, that I still do support homophobes. How? Well, if they ever wanted to speak their messagew in a public forum, I wouldn't DARE censor them like many out there would. Just because I differ in opinion does not mean I find their cause any less worthy.
Example: The issue of gay marrage. For some, the term "marriage" is defined as between a man and a woman. If they want to promote that, I may disagree, but I would never censor it. If they chose not to associate with gays, I would not force them otherwise.
Problem is, a lot of people would yell shit at the like "homophobe" and what not and try to drag them through the mud for a PERFECTLY SANE AND LOGICAL opinion.
How are you directly alienating them? For this to be true, one would have to apply to your given labelling rquirtements above. However, even should you not be a racist or ... gay-hater (I needed to use soemthing else) who's vocal about it, telling a friend you work with might get you fired. Say they're offended "cause that's wrong" and whoever is your supervisor is hears, you're gone, and you haven't and wouldn't have done a thing wrong.
By slandering against gays or blacks in the workplace, you are making the said people feel unsafe in their job. That is enough reason to fire someone. On the other hand, simply being gay or black is not a direct offense, or a direct slander, so they can't get fired for just being what they are.
Get a job before you say what will and will not get you fired, as you seemed to know so much about it in above comments.
First of all, I have had a job. Second of all, I'm not speaking of openly making comments, but to certain friends and what not.
Second of all, why are they scared? They hate you cause your black, they much be a comin to lynch you. They hate you because you don't shut the fuck and... Hey! They're just a good person.
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Hating someone for their sexual preference or race is no less valid or invalid as any other reason, no matter how stupid it is (ex: I hate ugly people).
Only someone who's an ass would try and imply that I believe gay and blacks should be fired for who they are. And before you claim you didn't: "On the other hand, simply being gay or black is not a direct offense, or a direct slander, so they can't get fired for just being what they are." It's a moot point. I didn't even state anything to the effect they should be.
Who the fuck coined the term "homophobia" anyways? It's too common place and I personally think it's just a dumb word... Why not refer to blacks on plantations as suffering from Anglophobia?
Stupid, stupid, stupid. (I hate dumbass PC terms. Little People? Yeah, we acknowledge you're people... just of lesser stature... rofl.)
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People who truly preach 'tolerance for all' would recognize the rights of individuals to disagree with them, but tolerate them anyway.
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"supporting" something, is a SHIT of a lot different than recognizing it's right to exist.
so, you kind of need to differentiate those, and make it clear which one you're actually talking about.
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I wonder what outrage would pour out should an anti-gay commercial air. Hell, it wouldn't even, because the CRTC wouldn't allow it. But if we publicly defame the idea of hate, it's OK? What the hell is that? I'm sorry, but the "I love everyone" people who go and spout off about how there's no reason to hate them, they people too, you're so stupid and tradition, or best yet "bible thumpers" are simply a new breed of fascists. Which, they're entitled to be, but the fact they don;t even realize it bothers me.
Trust me, there's a whole fucking LOAD of rascists and homophobes. People who are scared of black people, people who refuse to associate with gays. But the vast majority of them are not crazy and do not attack, defame, or riddicule them publicly.
I support anyone and everyone who isn't a fascist.
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Example: The issue of gay marrage. For some, the term "marriage" is defined as between a man and a woman. If they want to promote that, I may disagree, but I would never censor it. If they chose not to associate with gays, I would not force them otherwise.
Problem is, a lot of people would yell shit at the like "homophobe" and what not and try to drag them through the mud for a PERFECTLY SANE AND LOGICAL opinion.
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Get a job before you say what will and will not get you fired, as you seemed to know so much about it in above comments.
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Second of all, why are they scared? They hate you cause your black, they much be a comin to lynch you. They hate you because you don't shut the fuck and... Hey! They're just a good person.
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Hating someone for their sexual preference or race is no less valid or invalid as any other reason, no matter how stupid it is (ex: I hate ugly people).
Only someone who's an ass would try and imply that I believe gay and blacks should be fired for who they are. And before you claim you didn't: "On the other hand, simply being gay or black is not a direct offense, or a direct slander, so they can't get fired for just being what they are." It's a moot point. I didn't even state anything to the effect they should be.
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
(I hate dumbass PC terms. Little People? Yeah, we acknowledge you're people... just of lesser stature... rofl.)
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