Comments | emanix: FHM? For Headcases Monthly?

emanix

FHM? For Headcases Monthly?

Mar 29, 2011 13:29

In all seriousness, sometimes I quite enjoy flicking through FHM. I have a partner who buys it for the pretty pictures, and whilst we've still discussions to have about that regarding objectification and gender politics, sometimes it bears an ironic reading as an insight into the ridiculousness of male popular culture (plus as nasty body image ( Read more... )

gender, stupid journalism, wtf, grr

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ext_282660 March 29 2011, 12:55:14 UTC

Points came to my mind one by one, so I'll put them down as they presented themselves.

1. You are spot-on. If frottage is one of your turn-ons, then more power to you, but if a girl's not interested, then she's not interested. As you say, there's no definition of exactly how pesty they think you can be before it gets to "too much".

2. Being at all pesty... well, that's kind of wrong too. I've seen girls being no less than manhandled on the dance floor by boys who grab. These boys often can't dance either, which makes it even worse! Memory from years back: at some points, girls have pretended that I'm their boyfriend, in order to avoid any unwanted intruders.

3. Flirtation is a wonderful art. And this sort of thing seems to assume it's no longer needed - because one can just "take". And hey, where's the fun in that, eh?

world_rim_walke March 29 2011, 15:41:49 UTC

Yes, yes and yes.

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emanix March 30 2011, 00:52:33 UTC

Aw, I've missed you too. Um, I don't suppose you're anywhere near Florida next month? I can't actually remember where you are geographically!

In other news, there might be a post to the Order of the Wand shortly. There's a recording session in the works!

FHM edm March 29 2011, 18:43:53 UTC

Playing Devil's Advocate here: while the example presented is clearly wrong (and the FHM author appears to think so too), (*much*) further down the spectrum there are things that most people might consider okay but some may worry that it makes them seem like a pest. Possibly that's behind the choice to write "too much of" in the heading. Of the things you mention, only "general invasion of personal space" gets close to that "maybe" category, IMHO; pushing into personal space is sometimes welcomed as a method of flirting, and sometimes rather icky, but either way it's rather less extreme than "thrusting a stiffy up and down her thigh". Further away, I'd suggest "always hanging around" (*without* invading personal space, just trying to stay in eyesight of the person as much as possible) is also sometimes suggested as a method of flirting, and yet could also easily end up being considered a pest ("stalker") if it's not welcomed ( ... )

Re: FHM emanix March 29 2011, 22:43:58 UTC

Yeah, my point was really 'if you're behaving in a way that *you* would define as being a sex pest, then stop right now. That isn't okay.' Obviously different folks draw that line in different places, but the article seemed to imply that consciously and intentionally 'being a sex pest' was okay as long as you didn't take it 'too far'. Well, no. If you know that your attention is unwelcome, you just don't do it.