On one school teacher

[elka78]

My work email brought this interesting article to my mailbox.
It's exciting. And sad.
"Most people think the problem is that teachers are not paid well, but it's more than that. When you become a teacher, you start out at the bottom level, no matter how much experience you have in something else

Comments

[arnoubea]

I have a friend who did go into teaching after doing other things (and staying at home with kids for a few years). She was willing to start at the bottom, and have the low pay. She was given a job as a science teacher in a good middle school. But the number of hours that she was expected to work (for the same low pay) was absolutely ridiculous. Absolutely incompatible to having any life at all, and made her abandon the job mid-school-year.

[hettie_lz]

Я уже сказала, что этот тезис вызывает некоторые сомнения. Я знаю немного, пожалуй, всего пару человек, кто приходил в школу даже ближе к сорока, и отмеченный момент их не смущал. Про второй вопрос тоже есть какие-то сомнения, но пока не формулируются :-))

[elka78]

Да, там коментарий тоже об этом - есть люди, которых это не смущает, потому как призвание. Но есть очень много людей, которые не захотят идти в учителя именно по этим причинам. А действительно - есть ли программы поощряющие?

[hettie_lz]

Я не думаю, что те люди, у которых нет призвания, или, по крайней мере, огромного желания, должны туда идти. Таких я видела тоже. Даже в нашей хорошей школе. Это ужас - ужас. И вот, я думаю. что не было бы таких высоких зарплат, может, они бы туда и не двинули :-)))

[elka78]

Существует проблема нахватки хороших учителей. Are the schools doomed forever simply because the percentage of individuals with true calling for teaching will never match the demand for the number of teachers?

[gimli_m]

Yes. But in the present situation, no changes will be made. The society of educational adminstrators is too rigid.

If school has to provide enough funding and personal freedom to attract subject professionals to teach the subject, the salaries of and freedoms of full-time, professional teachers will have to be proportionally higher. Which the schools cannot afford. And that's even leaving aside the point that teachers with education on the level of B.S. - M.S. will have to have competitive salaries with Ph.Ds.in the industry.

Personally, I support a branching system of internships\mentorships under supervision of professionals, outside school. Bringing professionals into school is against efficiency.

[elka78]

so, how do you propose to implement the branching system, and at what grade level should it start?

[gimli_m]

Approximately 8th grade. The age at which a student can be expected to travel and handle tools.

The system can work as follows: introductory internships are for personal enrichment only, but they are prerequisites for advanced internships. Advanced internships count as high school and college credit. Some of the advanced internships are paid positions.

School education may have to become more formal and rigid, because it's job is now to provide non-ambiguous basics for creative advanced studies outside of school. On the other hand, teachers of humanities will have to become more professional, involved, flexible - better in every way. Because very few outside internships exist in history, literature or ethics.

[elka78]

IMSA has a program like that