Comments | elibad: Aiyee Ikea! and what a Will wants.

elibad

Aiyee Ikea! and what a Will wants.

Mar 11, 2007 00:19

So I spent the day putting together a pile of Ikea furniture. A bookshelf/hutch thingy, a couple of stools and two bedside tables, and am I beat. My right arm and shoulder are sore, My right thand is practically raw (I just avoided blisters) and really, the bookshelf and bedside tables are not done yet. Oiy ( Read more... )

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Comment p.1 ainsoph15 March 14 2007, 13:51:45 UTC

“And I agree with elibad, he really doesn't try with Jack. Maybe he just knows it's not worth it (at least not overtly ( ... )

Comment p.2 ainsoph15 March 14 2007, 13:54:29 UTC

As has already been said, the other desire that Will shows is an almost pathological need to save others, with a willingness to sacrifice his own life or happiness to do so ( ... )

Re: Comment p.2 elibad March 14 2007, 20:37:43 UTC

However, by the time we see Will again in DMC, he is again struggling with the feeling that he is seen as not good enough.

There definitely seems to be tension between Will, Elizabeth and Swann Daddy over this in the time leading up to DMC. While I think that Swann does like Will, he's not convinced about them marrying. And Will, bless him, when the fight or flight instinct kicks in, our boy is all about the fight.

the big question for me is *why* does Will want to sacrifice himself so readily for others?Like you say, this is very much about Will's self-worth and abandonment issues. It seems like he 'measures the worth' of the individuals involved, and he almost always comes out on the losing end. It could be as simple as 'Governor Swann would miss Elizabeth terribly, while no one would even notice I'm gone ( ... )

Re: Comment p.2 veronica_rich March 14 2007, 23:38:10 UTC

I don't think it's just some streak of self-destruction, or at least not quite as much as you posit here. I've always said that growing up without a family and so far from the place he considered home has made Will hyper-protective of those who do earn his trust and/or love. He's lost so much in his life that he doesn't want to lose what he's managed to cobble together NOW.

Re: Comment p.2 venusinchains March 15 2007, 07:04:08 UTC

"So, the big question for me is *why* does Will want to sacrifice himself so readily for others?" And all the details after...

I had a crazy theory that was sort of along these lines: that Will, because of his abandonment/orphaning/shipwrecking was actually a functioning sociopath because kids who are displaced from a normal family unit at a young age are simply likely to become sociopaths (the "moral cement" hasn't had time to harden before everything changes on them, so none of the normal rules apply for them).

The problem is, compared to Jack, Will is a saint (and makes Jack look like the sociopath :-p), and it really only applys to kids who would have been about half the age I assume Will was when he was first seen by Elizabeth.

Of course, if Bootstrap abandoned him at that much younger age, and his mother (who "raised [him] by herself") was actually leaving him alone much of the time as a consequence... Who knows?

I was going to post something about this in turningpirate a while ago, but I really didn't feel it had a soild backing ( ... )

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