With you on so many parts of this review. Especially the coat thing, that really sold the episode for me. And the wife thing, personally I thought you had to have an actual identity to get married but apparently not...
I'm staying away from fandom until this all dies down but I can't see what they're on about with this whole sunk ship thing, at all. I saw ship. I even thought Dean's line about how he can get over everything but he can't get over Cas' betrayal reinforced the ship. He's upset because he trusted Cas and it hurt him when Cas pulled his Godstiel trick. If he could just shrug it off, it would mean he didn't care.
I thought I was the only person in the world who loved Meg (well Rachel Miner's Meg) so kudos there, that woman is amazing. I hope we get to see a lot more of her, especiallyas Nurse Masters.
Also five points for "Hallucifer" xD
(Edit to get rid of that rather embarrassing Freudian typo...)
Heh, I thing the two of us 'read' episodes in a very similar way because I find myself nodding to everything you say here.
I loved a lot of elements in this ep and of course I'm nothing but glad that Cas is back. And that they brought him back as a good guy. I think one of my favorite lines from 7x17 is Emmanuel!Cas saying 'I don't feel like a bad person'.
But yes, the pacing was odd and the ending very rushed. Like you said, even a small scene of transition between Cas changing places with Sam and Sam and Dean driving of would have done a lot to make the ending more coherent and, I don't know, human?
I'm always with you on the 'to little Dean POV'. And this:
It was a very predictable move by Show, though, because they do have this habit of equating happiness with domesticity, a marriage, two kids and a picket fence. Very much yes and they're using this trope in a manner that has annoyed me since season six. I mean, of course marriages can be happy and so can family life in the suburbs. But to just throw these married life
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We rant because we care, right? If the show and its story didn't matter we wouldn't be that involved so. . . that's a good thing, right? Right? ;-)
I actually think it's kind of self-contradictory, in a way Yes, exactly! I absolutely agree with what you said about the divergence between the found family theme and the Apple Pie Life. As I said, it's not that I object to the latter it's just that the show invests a lot of time in alternative relationships and makes us care about them and then devaluates them by throwing in these context-less snapshots of domesticity, telling us: But this is what you should want. Which makes me feel cheated, both on an emotional and a narratological level. It's just not good storytelling.
I hated what they did to Lisa, too. And to Jo and Ellen. And to Sheriff Mills who had this weird episode of cleaning Bobby's house. I don't get it, really. They create these strong, independent women and then they go about dismantling them with mind wipes, cleaning buckets and horrible, men-enabling deaths. Le sigh.
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I'm staying away from fandom until this all dies down but I can't see what they're on about with this whole sunk ship thing, at all. I saw ship. I even thought Dean's line about how he can get over everything but he can't get over Cas' betrayal reinforced the ship. He's upset because he trusted Cas and it hurt him when Cas pulled his Godstiel trick. If he could just shrug it off, it would mean he didn't care.
I thought I was the only person in the world who loved Meg (well Rachel Miner's Meg) so kudos there, that woman is amazing. I hope we get to see a lot more of her, especiallyas Nurse Masters.
Also five points for "Hallucifer" xD
(Edit to get rid of that rather embarrassing Freudian typo...)
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If he could just shrug it off, it would mean he didn't care. -- Exactly. I think it speaks volumes how hurt Dean is/was by the whole affair.
Dude, I LOVE Meg, she's my favourite secondary character. I actually like both versions, but I have a slight preference for Rachel Miner's take.
Ha, I wish I could take credit for 'Hallucifer', but sadly that was dreamed up by somebody far wittier than me.
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I loved a lot of elements in this ep and of course I'm nothing but glad that Cas is back. And that they brought him back as a good guy. I think one of my favorite lines from 7x17 is Emmanuel!Cas saying 'I don't feel like a bad person'.
But yes, the pacing was odd and the ending very rushed. Like you said, even a small scene of transition between Cas changing places with Sam and Sam and Dean driving of would have done a lot to make the ending more coherent and, I don't know, human?
I'm always with you on the 'to little Dean POV'. And this:
It was a very predictable move by Show, though, because they do have this habit of equating happiness with domesticity, a marriage, two kids and a picket fence. Very much yes and they're using this trope in a manner that has annoyed me since season six. I mean, of course marriages can be happy and so can family life in the suburbs. But to just throw these married life ( ... )
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I actually think it's kind of self-contradictory, in a way
Yes, exactly! I absolutely agree with what you said about the divergence between the found family theme and the Apple Pie Life. As I said, it's not that I object to the latter it's just that the show invests a lot of time in alternative relationships and makes us care about them and then devaluates them by throwing in these context-less snapshots of domesticity, telling us: But this is what you should want. Which makes me feel cheated, both on an emotional and a narratological level. It's just not good storytelling.
I hated what they did to Lisa, too. And to Jo and Ellen. And to Sheriff Mills who had this weird episode of cleaning Bobby's house. I don't get it, really. They create these strong, independent women and then they go about dismantling them with mind wipes, cleaning buckets and horrible, men-enabling deaths. Le sigh.
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