No Big Mac in the Hall

[eggwards]

While Chris and I were playing trivia at BW3 tonight I noticed an interesting poll on ESPN News. It's Mark McGwire's first opportunity to be on the ballot for the Baseball Hall of Fame, and of the Baseball Writers (those who vote on the Hall of Fame inductees) only 25% said that they would vote for McGwire on this ballot

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[starzcub]

McGwire lost respect during his congressional interview/testimony. He admitted to some things, but would not answer questions people thought he should. The doubt of those questions weighs heavly on the mind of many, and that is why he is being the sacrifical lamb.

Barry Bonds should not get the record for homeruns either, but he will; and most likely may never get into the hall of fame.

[eggwards]

Yeah, you're right. I kind of forgot about the congressional hearings, especially as I thought that Congress really had no reason to be running an inquisition into Baseball, or any other sport. (I know, it's the anti trust clause that's always the basis for this) of course McGwire and Palmero and others weren't going to say anything to damaging. Just another political bit of granstanding by a congress that isn't willing to tackle the big issues - oh, like the failure of the drug war, and the increasing costs of health care, two issues that affect more Americans than a few athelete jucing up.

There will always be doubts, and may cost the sport more fans, but heck, wrestling probably has a bigger history of using steroids, and the deaths that come with them. It's something that will be with us from now on. Genie's out of the bottle.

If you take McGwire out on this speculation, you pretty much have to keep out every other fielder and some pitchers from this era as well.

[starzcub]

Hey, I totally agree with congress sticking their nose in something where they don't have the business; but however like Eggwards said...anti-trust issues

[eggwards]

Oh, I'd send any of those guys to the Hall over Pete Rose. Pete's the worst one of all. It's not for the gambling, it's because he took what's essentially a plea bargan. He would be banned from baseball, volentarily and baseball would never release it's report on him. It's all in his court, he can say he did it, and he'll be denyed forever, or if he's innocent, he should let the records come out. He can't have it both ways.

I hate that he's always whining about how he can't get into the hall, but he never says that he's the one who made the agreement that keeps him out. From Rose's play on the field, he certainly should be there, but it's doubtful he will until after his death.

[rowgun]

I still remember Mark Maguire's guest appearance on "Mad about You" - which culminated in a scene where Helen Hunt found Mr. Maguire naked in bed. Funny - I didn't remember that until i read your post.

About a year back I was on some meds that had a small amount of steroids - even with this small dose, my friends could already notice a difference in my personality. I was more rash, angry, and it scared me. I don't even want to know how the large doses affect athletes.

[eggwards]

I haven't taken a steroid, so I don't really know...but I know how the decribed a lot of the players in the NFL who had...and usually it was that agressivenes. Guys like John Matuzak. They, and some of the wrestling guys then went on to have heart problems and have passed on, like the Big Boss Man.

That Mad About You segment was pretty damed good because we got to see his huge chest!

[eggwards]

i still remember Mark as one of the "Bash Bros." in Oakland...which, given Conseco's misdeads and admissions just leads to more speculation about McGwire.

Barry Bonds also has the same problems with pitchers walking him, and I'm suprised that with his kneed problems that he can even play anymore, but he seems driven to take the big record. i'm just sad that the Giants are wasting time and money on him when they really could be much more compitative without him. Surely he would get a job as a DH somewhere with a team that would be happy to have him beat the record for publicity (like SF is doing).

Please...don't hint that he's a big bottom. That's just too much to take! *fans self*