Somebody's mistaken, or lying. But who?

Oct 18, 2012 10:28

Sometimes reading the same story from different sources just makes my head hurt. These can't all be true, but how to tell which? The worst part is how brazenly one or more of these sources is lying, simply stating (theoretically) easily verifiable things and just assuming no one will call them on it. So who should I be calling?

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eclectic_boy October 18 2012, 14:37:46 UTC
I realize that this is a minor matter, but it triggered a reaction in me since it reinforces how easily it is for a news source to just print what they want people to believe.
And I also realize that since the issue at hand is what one person believes, they might have said different things to different reporters. But I have a harder time believing that.

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badloki October 18 2012, 21:07:29 UTC
I don't mean any offense to any journalists about, but my experience is that every situation in which I was personally involved and had personal knowledge of the facts, and a news story was written, I have always found one or two factual mistakes in the news story. It may just really be difficult to get down all of the facts in a way that you can recall later, and journalists may just be in too much of a hurry. Hard to say.

In this particular case, the actual quotes seem to indicate that he isn't undecided, so I think the descriptive text that suggests that he is (more or less) is just wrong. Or was written before the quotes were collected -- it's not uncommon these days for stories to get posted online, and then revised online. I've seen cases before in which the new material added during the revision contradicts some of the existing material -- just a sloppy editing job.

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metasilk October 19 2012, 03:32:28 UTC
It seems possible that Epstein said different things-and thought different things-at different times. Whether that's due to his on reflection, influence on his thinking/feeling from external factors, or tweaks due to the interaction with a given reporter, I couldn't say.

It also seems possible that one of more of the reporters could represent Epstein's thoughts incorrectly.

Which of these is more probable? (They could both be occurring of course).

Seems more useful to verify/falsify numbers claims. Or turn the discussion away from the undecidedness of one or more voters (yes they are, and the admasters are workign hard to change that) and more to the likely consequences of electing one or the other (which is more relevant).

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