Having had to deal with these kinds of issues in a variety of venues, and having been on both sides of the fence (organizer and participant), I feel your pain. You called out what you felt needed to be called out, you re-examined contrary evidence that was brought to your attention, you apologized where you saw you overstepped, but you didn't compromise your feelings or your ethics. I don't know you really at all except through some blog posts, I wasn't at Conjecture (although was once intimately involved in its success), and it sure looks like there's a lot of blame to go around on just about everyone's part (and just as much miscommunication and assumptions), but you do deserve credit. Regardless of the outcome of this particular situation, and regardless of who may or may not have been at fault, I hope you continue to listen to your conscience and do what you think is right (and I encourage the other parties involved in this particular incident to do the same).
Thank you, Esprix. This means a great deal to me, especially because we don't know each other personally. I very much appreciate you taking the time to write this. Again, thank you.
No one called you a liar. I corrected the mistaken suggestion that Chase had been performing at Kelly's earlier that evening. You may not have intended to say that, but that's how your sentence read.
Anyway, the con chair has now weighed in and corroborated that neither Chase nor Robert behaved unprofessionally and that Eben's accusations were "over the top." That's the final word and the matter should be closed.
Er, yes, the Chair's opinion is the final word, but, as a past Chair myself (for other cons, not Conjecture), I would take it with a bit of a grain of salt while accepting it as the last word - what Chair wants to diss their GoH after the fact? The answer, in most cases, would be none. (Who was the Chair, anyway? I can't recall.)
Now, that being said, I wasn't there, I know none of the parties involved, and I'm not saying in this particular case the Chair is lying (or Eben, or Chase, or anyone else, for that matter), but I think it bears pointing out that the Chair might be just a tad on the biased side. Just a thought.
Re: apology (continued)james6626October 5 2010, 21:42:24 UTC
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We've also covered ad nauseum why Robert Sawyer said that Chase's set couldn't be swapped at the last minute by the sound person. Mr. Sawyer and Chase had an obligation (for which they were already late due to the sound check delay) that they were supposed to be at as soon as humanly possible after Chase's set. The sound operator did not have the authority to override Conjecture programming staff and contracted appearances, and that's what Robert meant when he said "You can't make a unilateral decision like that." Was Robert annoyed when he said this? I can't speak for him, but I suppose it's possible -- because again, he knew what Eben's band did not: that the delay of the sound check (not caused by he or Chase) had materially impacted their, and other people's, scheduled commitments.
Re: apology (continued)ebenbrooksOctober 6 2010, 13:02:14 UTC
There's a couple more pieces of info that I feel should be understood here. I'm not trying to perpetuate the argument, but I would like to a) clear up one misunderstanding, and b) comment on someone else's observation.
First of all, whether you believe it or not, I was in no way acting out of resentment at Chase's success. Why? Because until someone told me on Saturday afternoon-after I spoke to you and her in the dealers' room-I honestly had no idea who she was. I thought she was there only in connection to your movie. In fact, my lack of recognition may have led me to being harsher than I would have been had I known more about her. For this lack of recognition and understanding, I apologize
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(Seriously, though...thank you. Very much.)
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Anyway, the con chair has now weighed in and corroborated that neither Chase nor Robert behaved unprofessionally and that Eben's accusations were "over the top." That's the final word and the matter should be closed.
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Now, that being said, I wasn't there, I know none of the parties involved, and I'm not saying in this particular case the Chair is lying (or Eben, or Chase, or anyone else, for that matter), but I think it bears pointing out that the Chair might be just a tad on the biased side. Just a thought.
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We've also covered ad nauseum why Robert Sawyer said that Chase's set couldn't be swapped at the last minute by the sound person. Mr. Sawyer and Chase had an obligation (for which they were already late due to the sound check delay) that they were supposed to be at as soon as humanly possible after Chase's set. The sound operator did not have the authority to override Conjecture programming staff and contracted appearances, and that's what Robert meant when he said "You can't make a unilateral decision like that." Was Robert annoyed when he said this? I can't speak for him, but I suppose it's possible -- because again, he knew what Eben's band did not: that the delay of the sound check (not caused by he or Chase) had materially impacted their, and other people's, scheduled commitments.
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First of all, whether you believe it or not, I was in no way acting out of resentment at Chase's success. Why? Because until someone told me on Saturday afternoon-after I spoke to you and her in the dealers' room-I honestly had no idea who she was. I thought she was there only in connection to your movie. In fact, my lack of recognition may have led me to being harsher than I would have been had I known more about her. For this lack of recognition and understanding, I apologize ( ... )
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