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earthscorch

On a lighter note...

Dec 05, 2007 10:21

Okay, now I'm going to wax nerdy. I know you guys love that. It is my feeling that Return of the Jedi was the weakest Star Wars movie. There are many reasons for this, but my thought tonight is the more confusing aspects of the movie ( Read more... )

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flying_landon December 5 2007, 11:58:03 UTC

I think the Emperor's plan is that Luke isn't just killing some guy he looks up to, Luk ewould be killing his own father and that would break him.

And I think the Han escape plan was like this.

Get Lando and Leia in there. Chewie is needed as the reason to get Leia in there, since she can't just walk in and gain any trust. Lando and Leia spring Han and Chewie, grab the droids and go. Luke is the back up plan, and the droids are in there to arm Luke so he isn't stripped of his lightsaber. However, none of that works because as you pointed out, R2 is on the sand barge instead of in the palace. Also, I think he was banking on the forcing being a little more helpful with Jabba.

earthscorch December 6 2007, 01:35:24 UTC

Well, Lando didn't need Chewbacca to get in! :P See bakaknight's answer and my response for a good explanation.

I can see Luke getting broken by killing his own father, who he had high hopes for, and seeing the rebellion destroyed (mustn't forget that!) but how does that translate into joining the Emperor? If this failed, the Emperor was left without an apprentice, and Luke and Vader were pretty prime quality to be tossing around recklessly.

flying_landon December 6 2007, 02:51:38 UTC

I'd like to think as the great Sith Lord, the Emperor knew his game pretty well on what would happen to Luke if he killed his father and/or rebellion was destroyed.

Remember, Anikan originally turned to the dark side for a nobel cause, to save his woman. Luke could turn in hopes of either counter balancing the Emperor or soon destroying him.

As far as the plan... well.. got me. I guess the Force vision is the best answer. But even then, it was already shown to Luke to be wary about trusting something so vague and uncertain. That's a hell of a plan to come up with...
The only other thing I have left to back up my theory is Lando and Leia would be in two different positions (what appears as guard vs. employee) giving two different vantage points? I dunno... :P

jazzchyk December 5 2007, 13:34:14 UTC

I... try not to think about it.

bakaknight December 5 2007, 16:08:01 UTC

Put is down to Force-visions, and leave it at that. Luke knew that this-that-and-the-other would happen, so he just went with it.
As for the Lightsaber skills... EU holds that, while back home, Luke was hiding out in Old Ben's house (because things in deserts tend to STAY in deserts). Kenobi had all sorts of Jedi stuff there for the right person to find.
EU/Canon might even suggest that Qui-gon was hanging around the place as well, though that may be stretching it a tad.

earthscorch December 6 2007, 01:32:10 UTC

Actually foreseeing the future is a pretty good answer. He knew that Leia would fail but that sending her was necessary, perhaps. The Force is such a cheap explanation for stuff! ;)

litagemini December 5 2007, 21:32:40 UTC

I hate Ewoks.

But worse than Ep 1? ... naw.

earthscorch December 6 2007, 01:30:55 UTC

I'm pretty neutral about Ewoks, though I was a big fan as a kid. I think it was the primitive aliens thing more than them being Ewoks, though. My complaints about Return of the Jedi actually exclude Ewoks altogether. I liked Episode 1 too. You just don't have a child-like sense of wonder! ;)