pagans are the reason for the season. without the pagan customs that christians ripped to make their holiday appealing to the masses it would be a very drab, morbid and boring occasion. my family does the full-on secular celebration. no jesus, just trees, lights, presents, food etc...i love it!! i was forced to go to church once on xmas when i was like 8 and it was really dull and stupid and then the priest shoved wine down my throat and i cried and threw up a little bit in my mouth :(
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