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[dzuunmod]

I was just thinking a short while ago that I'd like to weigh in on the issue that dutchman04 just posted on. This stupid, stupid business that comes up every year about Christmas vs. Holiday. It's just dumb. The whole thing. I don't understand why people argue about it. Mind you, I'm an atheist, so I'm probably not the best person around to talk with about

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[nightkitchen]

masturbation can cause pregnancy? HA that's hilarious! it's so far from biologically possible that I really can't see how any could believe it. (unless she means mutual masturbation? the stats on that causing pregnancy probably still indicate that the chances are low to zero.)

have you read this? more scary stuff. unfortunately having a Canadian passport doesn't mean we're free from it (did you read Lorna Dueck's column in the Globe yesterday?). I hope Parliament passes that same-sex marriage bill. it's strange to think that people who don't even know me, who've never even heard of me, might actually care if I marry a woman (hey, get a life! stop worrying about mine!). can you imagine being in a Focus on the Family-type group and devoting your life to discriminating against other people? all this reminds me of a part from The Chrysalids, where the Zealand woman says to the novel's protagonist, who's being pursued by a bunch of religious fundamentalists (including his own father), "We have a new world to conquer: they have only a lost

[dzuunmod]

I assume there's some context missing to the masturbation bit up there... there just has to be, right?

I did see something about the gay theatre stuff elsewhere. I didn't take it seriously. I'm not sure how serious it is yet, to be honest.

Lorna Dueck can't be taken seriously, you know that!

[dutchman04]

If someone else wants to say 'Happy holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas', why do you care?

That's pretty much it. I mean hell, all they are doing is wishing you well, right? So it shouldn't matter how they say it...on either side.

The "culture war" thing here is a bit odd, because the only place I'm getting any of that is on TV. I came from a blue state and now live in a red state, and in neither state did I see any vestiges of some sort of culture war. Both states laugh at the fundies, though California coddles the far-left more than Arizona tolerates the far-right.

Again, I'm tempted to believe this is just another media thing. You'd be so shocked to come down here and find out that this is just another low-key place to live. My wife sure was!

[dzuunmod]

It's true. Both sides in the debate are dumb. I can hardly think of a dumber, less relevant thing to argue about...

Again, I'm tempted to believe this is just another media thing. You'd be so shocked to come down here and find out that this is just another low-key place to live. My wife sure was!

I believe it's probably like that on the surface, but I have my doubts that it'd be just as easy to be bisexual and in an open marriage down there as it is up here. I have nothing to back that up, it's just a feeling I have.

[dutchman04]

but I have my doubts that it'd be just as easy to be bisexual and in an open marriage down there as it is up here. I have nothing to back that up, it's just a feeling I have.

Honestly, it probably depends on the place. I know that in the "leave me alone" state of Arizona, it is easy to do such a thing, but difficult to be flamboyant. And to be honest, I think that's more what the anti gay-marriage crowd are rallying against, the whole flamboyant flaming gay male stereotype. There are same-sex couples out here who don't draw a raised eyebrow at all, but the guys who walk around lisping and talking about J-Lo's new makeup seem to inspire sidelong glances.

That's just how it is here...in SoCal you were looked at funny if you weren't flamboyant, that's how popular that sort of thing was out there.

Though I certainly don't think the same level of acceptance exists in all quarters for hetero and homosexual couples, neither do I think the anti-gay sentiment in 2004 is quite as bad as it is said to be on network news.

[dzuunmod]

Well, lots of stuff isn't as bad as it's made out to be on the news. But still, lots of non-straights in the U.S. don't seem to be terribly happy with the way things are there. And I'm not only referring to, like, the insane ones...