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lovelylind March 28 2008, 12:35:13 UTC
"Hello, my name is .... and I am the facilitator of the 'Prevention Without Labeling and Stigmatizing' session in today's workshop. I want this to be an open arena for you all to discuss your thoughts, experiences, etc. and how they relate to HIV Prevention. ::smile:: Now... who's gay??? Anyone...?"

For real, the value of the term MSM can be stated in a sentence. Seriously.

Workshops can be like that, though. Panel discussions are usually cool. Workshops.... can drain the life out of you.

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dyvinesweetness March 28 2008, 12:45:31 UTC
lol! Linda, this man said "I don't want to put pressure on you guys and you don't have to respond if you don't want to, but can I get a show of hands of who's gay/lesbian?" JUST gay and lesbian, mind you. lol! Ridiculous!

"For real, the value of the term MSM can be stated in a sentence. Seriously."

What's worse is it was like a debate on the ish. =/ Again inappropriate setting and not the people to be having that discussion with.

Workshops can breathe life into me 'cause I like to feel a part of the action (unless I'm just feeling listless). But that ish was was so unworthwhile.

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dyvinesweetness March 28 2008, 15:52:37 UTC
Yes.

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dyvinesweetness March 28 2008, 16:14:38 UTC
Men who have Sex with Men.

lol@ me not expecting you to be direct and serious.

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blackestsheep March 28 2008, 16:35:13 UTC
Does anyone have any insight as to why the term "the life" is such an often used term?

i've heard it used to reference 50-11 lifestyles and orientations, nearly all related to sexuality or sex work. I had a transgendered uncle who died (was murdered) before i was born, my grandmother referred to his gays friends as "his people / his world " and even in his letters ( dated late 1950s ) he referenced "The life".

I guess it's because anything not "normal" is treated as "Alternate lifestyle", the life behind the curtain of normalcy...

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dyvinesweetness March 28 2008, 16:53:54 UTC
I figured that was it. Thanks.

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blackestsheep March 28 2008, 16:55:55 UTC


okey dokey...

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moneda March 28 2008, 17:58:24 UTC
Aaaww, bad luck on the workshop. Though...

"... one of the participants told this long off-topic (yet fascinating) story about her 6 year old daughter and how she's teaching her about sexuality."

Wow. I'm curious how one goes about that without, like, sexualizing the child. Good on her for trying though.

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dyvinesweetness March 28 2008, 18:04:01 UTC
I would think that would be the best way to avoid oversexualization. From what she described she and her daughter just talk really really openly and she allows her to have her feelings on how she relates to little boys while guiding her and not judging her. And she speaks to her clearly and explicitly about anatomy. Kids are thinking about sex and sexuality at that age. I don't think not speaking about it would stop sexualization.

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moneda March 28 2008, 18:06:53 UTC
I was actually taught all the correct anatomical names and functions of genitalia when I was about that age. Definitely the best way to start off.

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dyvinesweetness March 28 2008, 18:11:10 UTC
Now I'm reminded of when my gramma got mad at me for using the word penis. lol! Yeah, I never heard them use the actual words for any anatomy. My mother called my vagina a "po-po" until I was like 8 or 9. Then she called it "possible" which is hiLArious to me now. She'd be like "make sure you wash possible." No idea where she got that from, but it's funny to me now.

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donthurrycurry March 28 2008, 20:24:52 UTC
Ugh that sounds so annoying. Maybe you ended up in the wrong workshop for a reason? Maybe you were one of the few there that saw the outing b.s. for what it was. Write a letter!!

P.S. What was served?

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dyvinesweetness March 28 2008, 20:32:35 UTC
I put all that info in the eval. Hopefully they take heed. I want to believe it was that guy's first time facilitating a workshop so he just didn't recognize he was being contradictory and couldn't figure out how to manage personalities and keep the discussion effective and appropriate. I dunno.

And they had fruit salad in the morning. They also had some kinda mini pastries that looked good, but I just wasn't up for anything sweet that early. And in the afternoon when we broke after the panel discussion and before the workshops, they served wraps and grilled chicken sandwiches with a really nice salad. Roasted veggies on the side. It was all so healthy and tasty! And they had these tiny chocolate peanut butter treats for dessert. I almost OD'd on those mini desserts.

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