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[dyvinesweetness]

Am I the last person to truly not give a damn about Blackfolks being included in white specific arenas or any other given arena where we have been historically excluded? Why should I give a damn about the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame now including HipHop artists?? First of all, these are the same people that believe Elvis is the king of rock and roll

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i feel ya

[captain_brad]

And it's a damn shame (even Snoop thinks so)

I've long been an advocate of some kind of "black folk music hall of fame". That's just a working title, of course.

[infamousone]

You know elvis got his steez from forrest....I don't even know why you're trippin'.

But yeah, when I saw that my first thought was....I wonder how he really feels about that....followed by how's it gonna look with grandmaster flash sitting between two artists I've never heard of....

But nothing like the ol'...hey look white people like him so he must really really be good

[dyvinesweetness]

"You know elvis got his steez from forrest.."

lol I love that movie, but I haaaaaaaaated that part. So fuckin insulting to the REAL people Elvis stole from.

[recumbentgoat]

Why don't we create our own shit instead of worrying about being included in theirs?

Basically. This is the way it is in history too. smh

[dyvinesweetness]

I'm telling you, desegregation fucked us UP. Instead of (re)building and renovating we are now just dying to be included in other folks' shit. I think it killed our creativeness.

[d_klein]

There's no hip hop hall of fame, so maybe that's why.

You can't blame Elvis for performing songs written by black artists before him, you can blame his producers. You could feasibly say that Elvis could have shed some light on some of the great music being made that the white culture couldn't embrace at the time, but that leads us to Chuck Berry...

Chuck Berry had the sound and feel that a lot of the black artists were writing, but what he did differently was write lyrics that the suburban white kids could identify with (e.g. "Johnny B. Goode," "School Days," etc). That's what helped put black R&B/rock/blues on the radios in the white suburbs, and I personally believe that Chuck Berry himself is the godfather of Rock & Roll; not Elvis.

There's a documentary film called Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll that documents his life, and it's a GREAT watch. Read more about it here if you're interested.

[dyvinesweetness]

"There's no hip hop hall of fame, so maybe that's why."

Well, that was part of my point. That's what I was referring to when I said "Why don't we create our own shit instead of worrying about being included in theirs?"

"You can't blame Elvis for performing songs written by black artists before him"

Stop right there. Actually I didn't "blame" him for anything. I could blame him, but I wasn't. What I said was the same people who champion him as the so called king of rock n roll are the ones who would be nominating honorees. Seeing as how they are exalting a man who only copied other artists, their opinions don't mean shit. If a group of white people decided to declare that Vanilla Ice was the King of HipHop and induct him in their hall of fame, I'd want to believe people would see how stupid that was too. Whether they liked Ice Ice Baby or not.

"you can blame his producers."

lol So I can blame his producers, but I can't blame him? Okey dokes.

"Chuck Berry had the sound and feel that a lot of the black artists were writing, but

[sweetwhispers]

feeling this post on so many levels. you are not alone, at all!!!

Man...i've had this argument a zillion times!!!