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_thirty2flavors September 11 2012, 00:52:56 UTC

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anna_sg1 September 11 2012, 11:22:52 UTC
maybe the art department really misses the old Tardis XD

Also, I didn't really get this last part with the ~epic music~ in the background. Does this mean Rory's dad went on some trips with the Doctor? Or is he just at home making postcards? Or is he actually travelling but not sending them normal postcards but makes his own? IDGI

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mrv3000 September 11 2012, 01:10:21 UTC
I haven't watched, but I don't care about being spoiled. Would you say it's worth a watch? Rory's dad looks a bit interesting (well, the idea of him anyway). I haven't seen anything since The Doctor's Wife though, so not sure if that would matter.

Or would the characterization issues bug me too much that it's not worth it? (It did sound like there was a lot characterization sacrificed for plot, which I'm not wild about.)

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_thirty2flavors September 11 2012, 01:39:14 UTC
Personally I would say no as I found the episode quite boring and the characterizations mostly shallow. Rory and his dad could've been a very interesting story but wasn't. They sort of hint at the possibility of maybe Rory and his dad don't quite see eye-to-eye on stuff, but if it was meant to be a story of them appreciating each other's value it fell through. Like I think there COULD have been a story in here about how maybe Brian never quite understood Rory or why Rory would want to be a nurse and it could've been good to have this episode be about like, you know, Brian seeing his son in action~ (Rory does get to play nurse in this ep) and seeing the value of it and that kind of thing. But that didn't really happen. You have to dig pretty far to get that out of it.

Anyway, i would say not really. There are better episodes to watch if you're picking and choosing. This was mostly quite boring. Amy was great, though, I liked Amy in this ep a lot.

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_thirty2flavors September 11 2012, 01:47:37 UTC
I wouldn't say characterization was sacrificed for plot in this episode too much. I would just say there isn't a lot of it. This is a very blatant filler episode. It's kinda fun (if you don't find it boring) and there's not a lot to think about. Rory and his dad have some nice moments but ultimately feel underused to me. Amy is great in this episode -- the most I've liked Amy Pond since at least "Girl Who Waited" -- so that was nice too.

Eleven ...is Eleven. I don't think Nefertiti or RIddell were particularly interesting as characters although Riddell's accent delighted me a bit. And the Nefertiti/Riddell ship was gross as hale, with Riddell being like the typical chauvinist early-20th-C prick and Nefertiti chastising him for sexist remarks but secretly she likes it~*~ because they're flirting~*~ and in the end they have sex. Spare me.

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hungrytiger11 September 11 2012, 01:20:36 UTC
1) They were okay. A bit of a throw away, but no more than Queen Liz X or others from Season five. Actually, the idea that the Doctor has companions (for any length of time) who are from time periods/places that are not contemporary Britain is nice. I mean, from a Doylist perspective one can see why it is always contemporary Britain, but others are nice too. Plus, they gave Amy someone to interact with (which I approve of seeing as she seems rather like she reverts to a co-dependent child almost with Eleven), and also acted a good plot device. Amy can see that the Doctor has other "companions" (Like Sarah Jane was for Rose, only not so developed ( ... )

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_thirty2flavors September 11 2012, 16:13:52 UTC
What I'm trying to say is it is a really big departure, character-wise, for him to come back like that. Plus, from a story-telling perspective, it seems to weaken the characters departure from the show.I agree. For one, we never see them have a conversation establishing their arrangement. It's just mentioned off-hand in this episode. So, poor writing IMO. For another, it directly contradicts what we saw earlier. In "The God Complex", he turfs them out of the TARDIS against Amy's wishes because he wants to keep them safe. So what gives? Why has he suddenly gone "well fuck that, any time something dangerous comes up I'll give 'em a call ( ... )

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hungrytiger11 September 11 2012, 18:15:14 UTC
Huh, I'd never really thought about it, but it IS on his terms. At least with Martha she's the one who can call him (though, presumably he could call her too...or maybe only the latest TARDIS got a phone installed.) Maybe that's why her ending makes more sense to me in terms of the Doctor coming back or not coming back....

I'm not sure the story realizes how unfair it is either.

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_thirty2flavors September 11 2012, 18:26:14 UTC
Oh absolutely, Martha's ending is great because it IS on her terms. The Doctor COULD call her up, but a) she's made it clear she doesn't want to travel and b) I just find it generally unlikely that Ten would've ever done that anyway. And that's also why I'm not keen on the fact that under Moffat it seems like everyone and their mom has the Doctor's phone number/can contact him at will whenever they want, it makes Martha less special. But... whatever I guess, within the context of her own era Martha is still unique ( ... )

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