"Poor Edward. Founded Oriel College, but talk about father issues."
Bwahahaha!
Loved this, especially the way you tied it up with the Princes in the Tower (I like your take on Richard III).
"Remind me, which one was Gawain?"
"The one who slept with any and every damsel he could find."
I think Jack is always going to be Gawan for me now...
"Can't you let me enjoy the moment?" the Doctor hissed back, the mad grin still twinkling in the moonlight. "One of the greatest enigmas in English history, and the answer is me! It's absolutely brilliant!"
Typical Doctor - especially the way he keeps flipping from being serious to gleeful.
"Once I track him down. He still owes me for The Book of the Duchess." *g*
Hee, Gawain!Jack is much fun, isn't he? And the parallels really are there if you think about it long enough...
Typical Doctor - especially the way he keeps flipping from being serious to gleeful.
That's so true, and it's so strange to write, to be honest. The man is seriously bipolar sometimes!
Once we thought of it, we couldn't not include the Princes in the Tower, not when it doesn't look like it's been dealt with at all on Doctor Who -- except, I think, in an audiodrama. Which is a shame, really.
Well, I'm definitely an apologist, and one who had a mad teenage crush on Richard, in fact, so I didn't want to find your Richard convincing, but I did. He makes sense.
Also, I loved your line about 'She's female. It's the fifteenth century. What do you expect?'.
Oh, I also had a mad teenage crush on Richard. The problems started when I realised I had almost as bad a crush on Shakespeare's Richard, for completely different reasons. ;)
::snerk:: That line was requisite -- I'm doing a dissertation on fifteenth-century queens and rosamund is wonderful enough to put up with reading large sections of it.
I suspect I'm not enough of a history buff to truly appreciate this, but I can love it for the writing and the timey wimey-ness of it at least. Wonderful characterizations, and I love the way you worked in the Shakespeare quotations. The Jack/Ned made my heart ache - it reminded me a little of Girl in the Fireplace, actually, in that it packed the same sort of punch in the stomach at the end. The epilogue was brilliant as well. Overall, it was an extraordinarily well-conceived and well-executed fic. Thank you so much for sharing!
Thank you so much!! Girl in the Fireplace was the major influence behind the fic -- unsurprisingly, I guess, considering the clockmen, but they're so creepy and pretty at the same time, it was hard to resist. And we were rather mean to poor Jack...
I almost want to see that now. The Richard III Society are lovely and I appreciate their efforts to get all sorts of useful texts published in modern editions, but they do have some militant members whose books bother me.
I really wish I had something constructive or interesting to say--so instead I'll just say, it felt like the best multi-part episodes: fiendish grins and fun tech and multiple futures, but also the human strain of being a historical figure before the histories have been written. So much of the characterization is dead on; so much of the history is well-articulated. I'm really grateful to have read this.
Thank you so much! We had a great time writing it -- rosamund is far better versed in the Doctor Who/Torchwood canon, and I have massive quantities of chronicle notes, so we thought we might as well join forces. :)
but also the human strain of being a historical figure before the histories have been written.
I am so glad that came through, especially with Richard, but also with Edward, who I still think doesn't get enough love. Well, not from historians, anyway. Everyone seems to agree he managed actual love pretty well.
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Bwahahaha!
Loved this, especially the way you tied it up with the Princes in the Tower (I like your take on Richard III).
"Remind me, which one was Gawain?"
"The one who slept with any and every damsel he could find."
I think Jack is always going to be Gawan for me now...
"Can't you let me enjoy the moment?" the Doctor hissed back, the mad grin still twinkling in the moonlight. "One of the greatest enigmas in English history, and the answer is me! It's absolutely brilliant!"
Typical Doctor - especially the way he keeps flipping from being serious to gleeful.
"Once I track him down. He still owes me for The Book of the Duchess."
*g*
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Typical Doctor - especially the way he keeps flipping from being serious to gleeful.
That's so true, and it's so strange to write, to be honest. The man is seriously bipolar sometimes!
Once we thought of it, we couldn't not include the Princes in the Tower, not when it doesn't look like it's been dealt with at all on Doctor Who -- except, I think, in an audiodrama. Which is a shame, really.
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I do like the bit with the princes in the tower. And your Richard III is excellent.
Catherine
(but did you have to say "I had a hunch"? Really?)
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Very glad Richard is coming through; we were trying to tread the line between the apologists and the detractors, which is always fun...
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Also, I loved your line about 'She's female. It's the fifteenth century. What do you expect?'.
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::snerk:: That line was requisite -- I'm doing a dissertation on fifteenth-century queens and rosamund is wonderful enough to put up with reading large sections of it.
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but also the human strain of being a historical figure before the histories have been written.
I am so glad that came through, especially with Richard, but also with Edward, who I still think doesn't get enough love. Well, not from historians, anyway. Everyone seems to agree he managed actual love pretty well.
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