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[dtissagirl]

Irrational Pet Peeve of the Day:

Every time I see someone asking a stupid question on Twitter, my gut reaction is to link them to let me Google that for you. Sometimes I even wanna do it to myself.

Unimportant Pet Peeve of the Day:I *can't stand it* when people are vague about downloading crap online. You know, when someone writes stuff like "I'

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[dtissagirl]

I have seen disenfranchising posts in every single fandom I've been in, really, right from when I first got online and was into The X-Files.

[Back then there was a whole LOT of discrimination towards women in fandom who were either 'shipping or slashing characters -- because the then mainly male online fandom [oh IRC and Usenet, how much I DON'T miss you] thought those opinions were minor, less important than talking about the show's plot points.]

Last week, my sister was having this VERY SAME conversation online, about the Beatles -- she dared to criticize some songs and other fans pretty much told her she's not a real fan if she doesn't like every single Beatles song EVER. Huh, what?

start whining things like "Why can't you just enjoy it? It's only a TV show!" And I don't know about you, but it's that kind of whining that harshes my, squee,

OH GOD, YES, EXACTLY. Every time someone uses the "it's only a TV show" trope I feel like repeating myself and linking to this post I made awhile ago. Because telling us that is their way of

[dtissagirl]

I'm just like you in that I don't know how to consume entertainment without nitpicking and criticizing and being somewhat academic about it, and yeah, I too think that the squee-only fans are the lesser ones. [I mean, there is a reason I went to film school, and it was not so I could sit back and watch stuff and think everything is unicorns and rainbows. *g*]

OTOH, people are allowed to like whatever they like HOWEVER they like so, I *get* that my opinion of them is just that -- an opinion. But what I do when I think squee-only fandom is bugging me is I GET AWAY FROM IT, instead of telling them to stop hashing my meta.

PS: I meant to say it re: Radiohead, but the comment got too long and I forgot. Bolachas posted a bunch of Collector's Editions for their albums, just run a search and you'll find them [hopefully still available for download].

[_jems_]

I *can't stand it* when people are vague about downloading crap online. You know, when someone writes stuff like "I've managed to acquire this book/record/episode/movie through unorthodox methods" or some other euphemistic shit. See, I do this a lot, under the impression that should there ever be legal repercussions and someone finds my LJ, I'll have plausible deniability. But you're right, that's just stupid, just the fact that I've seen all these episodes kind of gives it away. I'm going to try to stop doing that

[dtissagirl]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure even I have been vague about downloading stuff in the past. But I've broken that pattern once I realized that really, TPTB are not on the lookout for codewords, especially since there is a lot of crap that you can download legally. If any downloader gets caught, it's gonna be through their ISP's bandwidth/downloading reports, and not through their blogging.

it's "when you put your characters together, make sure you have a fucking clue about what to do with their arcs afterward".

Oh yes, that's definitely something worth warning. What bugs me re: Moonlighting having become synonym to "coupledom ruins the show" is that they did it wrong and yet the excuse still gets used to this day and age.

My current favorite example of awesometastic follow-up on the will-they-won't-they trope is Charlie and Amita in Numbers. They spent a couple of seasons doing the UST thing, then they got together and will you look a that -- their relationship developed very organically, they had their ups and downs and doubts and even some

[jujubinha]

Every time I see someone asking a stupid question on Twitter, my gut reaction is to link them to let me Google that for you.

Hah, I've JUST did that. The stupid question, I mean. On my defense, I don't do "looking up fandom related things in Google" very well.

And re. Moonlighting, someone posted this link in my FL yesterday (I think it was alethialia), and I thought it was very good on calling bullshit. Everybody with a preconceived notion that gen is the way to go otherwise it will kill the show should read that.

[Edited because oh, wow, pea-sized brain. ]

[dtissagirl]

Hah, I've JUST did that. The stupid question, I mean. On my defense, I don't do "looking up fandom related things in Google" very well.

What I've been doing lately with the stupid questions is I either completely ignore them or I'm obnoxious about it and link to Wikipedia.

Everybody with a preconceived notion that gen is the way to go otherwise it will kill the show should read that.

I did stop watching both House and CSI: Motherboard mostly because the romantic storylines annoyed me, so I get being Gen. But that doesn't mean I think the coupledom storylines are not valid or that the 'shipping fans are OMGWRONG -- which is the feeling I get from most Gen people [especially XF and SG-1 Gen people. GOD, the entitlement!]

[jujubinha]

Yeah, I don't really mind about the questions. Twitter will probably end up being another source of information in the internet; and if someone already made the "research" and know the answer, all the better, I don't have to waste time looking. Besides, there's so much bullshit being posted on twitter everyday, questions are pretty low on my list of annoyance.

And I get choosing gen, but the reason for that choice should not be "otherwise couples will kill the show". Couples don't kill the show, writing does. I'm just saying.

[dtissagirl]

Now, see, I'm someone who's probably done the research and know the answer already [or someone who people *assume* either know or will be willing to look for it].

Which is why the stupid questions bug me -- I did the work for myself, why can't other people? And I know it's not people's intention AT ALL, but to me? Passively sitting there waiting for someone to explain things to you that you could easily find yourself? It reeks of entitlement.

[And I say that while totally admitting I do it myself sometimes, but thankfully for me, usually my common sense kicks in 2 minutes later if no one answers me -- and I'll look for it myself instead.]

[havocthecat]

I swear, every time I see one of those damn "don't harsh my squee" posts, I feel like it's about the OMGSERIOUSNESS and how they feel MORALLY OBLIGATED to read all of it, and how they are making sure that everyone knows that they're aware of how VERY IMPORTANT it is, but they also want everyone to know that they RESENT the importance of it, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT, and they'll do the reading, despite the fact that it HARSHES THEIR SQUEE.

*sigh* I just want to pat them on the head, hand them a cookie, and tell them to go write their fanfic and be secure in the that they haven't fooled anyone, and, not to worry, their squee won't be harshed by someone daring to critique the thing they're squeeful about. Unfortunately, every time I express that opinion, I get apologists telling me that it's really NOT LIKE THAT, and the posters DON'T MEAN that their squee is harshed, not REALLY.

[dtissagirl]

and how they are making sure that everyone knows that they're aware of how VERY IMPORTANT it is, but they also want everyone to know that they RESENT the importance of it, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT, and they'll do the reading, despite the fact that it HARSHES THEIR SQUEE.

OH MAN, you are SO TOTALLY right! I was thinking more along the lines of people feeling obligated to their fandoms/flists thus following the discussion, but your take is definitely better -- A LOT of these posts sound exactly like that.

I'm always looking for harsh meta on the stuff I squee about, because I want to watch my entertainment without the rose colored glasses. And sometimes it IS a struggle to keep watching [oh, hi, SGA], but I've come to realize that I'd rather be mad/sick/furious at a TV episode than to not notice the problems it has.

[surreallis]

omfg. I got halfway through the comments on that open letter to Eric Kripke and I had to stop for my own sanity. I have never wanted to kick someone in the crotch as badly as I wanted to kick Ann and Galveston. Holy crap.

It's not even the whole tiring aspect of hearing the SAME old justifications again and again, it's the self-righteous ranting. GO AWAY.

[dtissagirl]

Fuck, I hadn't read those comments. Just GRRRR at those two. [This is why unless people tell me to, I don't read comments outside of the LJs in my flist. Therein lies the CRAZY.]

[surreallis]

It's true. And the crazy people seem to have an inexhaustible energy and passion for the fight, no matter how wrong they are. They will come back again and again and again (refusing to get it the whole time), until you literally want to go crazy just to keep the pain away.

That said, thanks for the links. They ARE actually quite excellent. Despite the crazy people attracted to them.

[dtissagirl]

Yeah, you're very welcome. I feel like asking that Ann character if her last name is "Coulter". Because SERIOUSLY. Bingo Card CHAMPIONSHIP WINNER right there.

But really -- I watched last night's SPN with this letter in mind and you know what? It made the viewing so much more fulfilling that it made all of the difference in my liking of the episode [and I did like it a lot].