To-do (politics again)

Dec 08, 2016 18:02

[Content warning: discussion of Nazism, navel-gazing, and disorganized mental meanderings. I don't promise coherence, but commentary and feedback are welcome ( Read more... )

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sovay December 9 2016, 08:06:16 UTC
I'd rather be in a reality-based bubble than some fictional construction in which this level of sexism, isolationist nationalism, and *phobia are OK to discuss.

You can discuss them. You just can't discuss them as though they are not the products of sexism, isolationism, nationalism, and *phobia; you can't pretend they have equal claims to reality. Everybody is entitled to their opinion in the same sense that free speech is legally protected in the United States: in neither case are you guaranteed that no one will tell you that your opinion or your freely expressed belief is not pernicious fucking nonsense. That last part seems to have gotten a little lost.

And always, ALWAYS call a fucking Nazi a fucking Nazi that they may not walk unshamed among us.

Will somebody tell 2016 that we got the memo, thanks?

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drwex December 9 2016, 15:43:41 UTC
you can't pretend they have equal claims to reality.

Yes, that. I agree that "discuss" is an infelicitous word but my brain was too jumbled to come up with a better one at that point.

in neither case are you guaranteed that no one will tell you that your opinion or your freely expressed belief is not pernicious fucking nonsense. That last part seems to have gotten a little lost.

Yeah, there's definitely a segment that conflates being told they're wrong with having their speech rights taken away. It's very closely aligned with the segment that thinks stopping imposition of religious beliefs on others is an infringement of religious rights.

In re "City Without Jews" I am stunned by the irony of this being crowdfunded in Austria, which is also the only Western country so far this year to reject a right-wing *pobic isolationist political movement.

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sovay December 11 2016, 22:47:44 UTC
In re "City Without Jews" I am stunned by the irony of this being crowdfunded in Austria, which is also the only Western country so far this year to reject a right-wing *pobic isolationist political movement.

Austria is doing a lot better with their historical reckoning than we are.

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make_your_move December 9 2016, 11:58:47 UTC
I love your posts.

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drwex December 9 2016, 15:50:25 UTC
Thank you. This was rather a lot of words that got stacked up inside me.

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