I love Balin and Bilbo friendship and we got two moments of that in which i am pleased. I liked Beorn's half second moment and as i mentioned wished that he would've kicked more orcs out of the way. I did not like the nod to Aragorn because that is movie verse timeline in which i thought shouldn't have been, but obviously if you're going with TTT timeline in which Aragorn did mention he was 87 at the time of the War of the Ring it would make sense. I thought all the Elvish dialogue felt contrived and yes, fanficcish. :p
Missed Thorin funeral, missed Fili and Kili defending their uncle to the death though i knew they were going to change it. :p
Billy's song was amazing. I'm sorry to hear that so many people were in your way. THat happened to me the first viewing then i went twice more to make sure i can actually see the credits and also take pictures of the beautiful drawings. :)
Well, it would not have made much sense for PJ not to follow the movie-verse timeline in the movie. He took out the seventeen years after Bilbo's Party, and that skewed everything from then on.
I would like to have seen the funeral. I heard they filmed it, so maybe in the EE.
I have always been one to watch the credits after movies, even before filmmakers started putting special things in them to hold people. It annoys me no end that others can't sit still just a few minutes longer to see who worked on the movies.
Freeman's Bilbo really was a highlight i think. he is so hobbitish in all the right ways and he really asserted himself in this movie and i'm glad he didn't get shafted to the side. I even mentioned that i like him as a hobbit and his performance even exceeds that of the 4 main hobbits. However, i guess that is unfair assessment for all the 4 hobbits have hobbitish features as well and its' different story so theyr'e doing different things. But Bilbo here was REALLY Bilbo and i appreciated PJ keeping the hobbity essence of Bilbo.
What did you think of the scene between Gandalf and Bilbo at the end? I do not think that took place until Bag End 60 years later because Gandalf only guessed at what Bilbo had but not really knew. I think they fast forwarded this conversation so that i could be filmed?
I think it was an essential scene and bit of dialogue to have. I didn't mind that they shifted it out of place; PJ has a habit of doing that, but as long as it makes sense when they have it (remember Gandalf's conversation with Frodo in Moria, shifted there instead of in "Shadow of the Past"?), I don't mind as long as Tolkien's words get in there somehow.
Bilbo truly is the quintessential hobbit. Each of the four hobbits of LotR represents a different quality, but Bilbo has them all. He's so very Tookish, and yet such a Baggins as well! MF captured that perfectly.
I think you hit the nail on the head with the "dislikes". I, too, quickly tired of Alfrid (drown in the Lake, lol), and Tauriel/Legolass/Kili love thingy.
I was more looking forward to the particular scene in the book where Bilbo wrapped himself in a blanket and wept over the entire war and loss of life, not just Thorin, although that was a sweet scene. I hope PJ includes that in the EE, because if he wanted to pull some emotional heart strings, that's the scene to do it with, and with ease.
All in all, I enjoyed all three movies. I watched each movie as *a* movie, *loosely* based on "The Hobbit". Then the proverbial pill was easier to swallow . :-P
All in all, I enjoyed all three movies. I watched each movie as *a* movie, *loosely* based on "The Hobbit". Then the proverbial pill was easier to swallow . :-P
Yep.
I'd love to see that scene in the EE as well. It was so touching; I remember using it as the opening of my story "Concussion".
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Missed Thorin funeral, missed Fili and Kili defending their uncle to the death though i knew they were going to change it. :p
Billy's song was amazing. I'm sorry to hear that so many people were in your way. THat happened to me the first viewing then i went twice more to make sure i can actually see the credits and also take pictures of the beautiful drawings. :)
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I would like to have seen the funeral. I heard they filmed it, so maybe in the EE.
I have always been one to watch the credits after movies, even before filmmakers started putting special things in them to hold people. It annoys me no end that others can't sit still just a few minutes longer to see who worked on the movies.
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What did you think of the scene between Gandalf and Bilbo at the end? I do not think that took place until Bag End 60 years later because Gandalf only guessed at what Bilbo had but not really knew. I think they fast forwarded this conversation so that i could be filmed?
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Bilbo truly is the quintessential hobbit. Each of the four hobbits of LotR represents a different quality, but Bilbo has them all. He's so very Tookish, and yet such a Baggins as well! MF captured that perfectly.
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I was more looking forward to the particular scene in the book where Bilbo wrapped himself in a blanket and wept over the entire war and loss of life, not just Thorin, although that was a sweet scene. I hope PJ includes that in the EE, because if he wanted to pull some emotional heart strings, that's the scene to do it with, and with ease.
All in all, I enjoyed all three movies. I watched each movie as *a* movie, *loosely* based on "The Hobbit". Then the proverbial pill was easier to swallow . :-P
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Yep.
I'd love to see that scene in the EE as well. It was so touching; I remember using it as the opening of my story "Concussion".
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