Plagiarism hoopla

[sari_malfoy]

Okay. Maybe (just maybe) I'm an ignorant, but until two days ago I knew nothing of Cassie Claire and the whole plagiarism debackle. I had heard a sentence here or there, but had no real idea wtf everything was about. I have to admit, I'm still kind of confused. I've been reading the whole thing in a nutshell

Comments

[midnight__moon]

Well, it's fanfic, so really, we can do whatever we want. However, I usually don't like seeing borrowed stuff unless it's really clever or obscure.

[ebilgatoloco]

My whole deal plagiarism is that while it's illegal, it happens. Period. If it isn't literal plagiarism (copy and paste) it's intellectual plagiarism where you borrow ideas from other people and pass them off as your own. Isn't a college research paper just plagiarism regurgitated and paraphrased?

We're not original creatures, and while I don't think you should borrow without asking, I do not see why you can't use a line here or there. I've actually emailed authors asking if I can use their idea because it's their idea even if they themselves are borrowing JKR's universe. And while I haven't made use of these ideas, I was given a "blessing" so to speak, as long as I credited their work.

So in a nutshell, if you ask, and are given the go-ahead...then it's fair game.
My two knuts. =]

[midnight__moon]

My mouse pad is your icon.

[ebilgatoloco]

LOL. Isn't it cute?! =]

[mrs_curls]

LOL. Wouldn't that count as plagiarism? :P

[midnight__moon]

I guess...I just don't understand the whole fuss. It's fanfiction. People can go out and do whatever the fuck they want with fanfiction---it's not published, copy righted, or anything but blogging really. Who cares what one does? If I read a Henry Miller book and decided to take an entire scene from Sexus and put in Hermione and Draco into it, who cares? Am I going to be sued in the courts? It's blogging, it's whatever, as long as I'm not making any money off of that persons work. And with fanfiction, all one gets is fans, right?

Plagiarism

[drcjsnider]

I was just talking about this with my students the other day. For my profession (historian) plagiarism is defined as using someone words or original ideas with the intent to deceive. Therefore, in a scholarly/academic article it is not just enough to give credit at the end of an article or book for all the sources you may have used. You also have to put any exact words you use from another sources in quotations marks and then footnote them. Likewise, if you don't use someone's exact words - but you paraphrase their arguments, sentences, ideas, you need to footnote that as well

Re: Plagiarism

[quicksilvereyes]

I agree with your thoughts on plagiarism. I'd also add that people should also educate themselves on proper conduct because not "intending to decieve" isn't an excuse for utter ignorance.

Also, I do think CC should be held accountable even if there was no fandom code because she plagiarized whole passages of one book and word for word phrases from other media as well. Just because it's fandom doesn't mean you can do whatever you want and copying others' works to such an extent without credit would be wrong in any context rules or no rules.

Re: Plagiarism

[drcjsnider]

I would suggest that copying whole passage of another book is having an intent to deceive.

Re: Plagiarism

[precariously]

that I can definitely understand. but does anyone know what exactly she copied? I haven't read it in forever -- ever since the d/g became a huge portion of the story and the d/hr faded out.

[quicksilvereyes]

Sari, I don't think what you did is plagiarism at all