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dragojustine November 1 2008, 00:21:48 UTC
I know! *hugs* He'll make it. I swear. He has to.

My family isn't so bad. I just... think my grandparents don't realize.

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the_shoshanna November 1 2008, 00:33:58 UTC
Oh, go you for that response. Beautifully put.

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dragojustine November 1 2008, 00:50:47 UTC
oh, thank you so much. I'm glad to get at least some outside perspective telling me it wasn't gratuitously horrible, because I really didn't mean to just snap like that.

At least she hasn't been sending Prop 8 emails. Then I REALLY would have snapped.

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green_grrl November 1 2008, 01:34:56 UTC
Fabulous response! I agree completely. And actually, that reply would work for Prop 8 as well with very little editing.

(My Dad was sending out the obnoxious right-wing forwards until my sister snapped and gave him what for in a reply-to-all. He's stopped!)

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dragojustine November 1 2008, 01:55:12 UTC
>that reply would work for Prop 8 as well with very little editing.

(Yeah, but I don't really have the ability to be so polite on that subject these days)

Thank you so much. Glad your dad stopped...

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ariadne83 November 1 2008, 01:35:37 UTC
Woot! Go you! Those kinds of conversations are scary and yet satisfying - I had a long, surprisingly civil discussion with my mother this week RE: gay rights. She believes, as per the bible, that gays are an abomination and can be cured, and she's basing her vote on the fact that the mother of the guy running for prime minister in our country is Jewish (which therefore makes him religious). I calmly asked her why she believes gays are an abomination, pointed out that gay-conversion programmes have proven to fail time and again (and that if being gay isn't a choice and can't be cured then God must have made them that way), and that surely the most important thing to a Christian god is compassion.
I then went on a side-rant about how the people running the 'conversion' groups in the States are evil, manipulative and brutal... and she agreed *G*

I didn't change her mind, really, but I felt better getting my position out there, because staying silent makes me feel like a hypocrite.

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dragojustine November 1 2008, 01:56:39 UTC
because staying silent makes me feel like a hypocrite.

Yes! Thank you. That was something my parents were never able to understand when I was leaving the church- as far as they were concerned, I should just go and SIT THROUGH IT, and refusing to do that was making trouble and defying them because "it doesn't hurt you to just sit there and listen."

When... it really kind of does.

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dragojustine November 2 2008, 22:06:33 UTC
Hah. Yeah, you Californians are even crazier than we Washingtonians. I know everybody back in Seattle used to carry their little cheat sheet into the polls with them :) Only way to do it, if you can't vote absentee. (And go you, so much, for all your anti-Prop 8 volunteering. Really)

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