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berrylicious877 March 4 2009, 15:28:20 UTC
I've heard that if Dollhouse can make it to episode 6 or 7, that is when Joss really hits his stride (and the network stopped interfering). That seems a little long to get sucked in. I mean, the show comes on FRIDAYS. It's already got a major strike against it.

What I loved about Buffy and Angel and even Firefly were the relationships between the people. Seeing them become a family and start to find support where they hadn't really had it before was touching. But the entire premise of the show kind of precludes that. True, there is the Echo/Boyd relationship and the Echo/Sierra relationship, but those are very minimal. I miss seeing friendships blossoming.

Oh well, my DVR will continue to record it, and I will continue to watch, but I don't think it's nearly at the level that Buffy was.

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dragojustine March 4 2009, 21:19:57 UTC
You're right that the found/created family is what made Firefly worth watching, but then, it's my biggest narrative kink of all. Joss does two things well: waiflike women who kick ass, and created family, and frankly, the waiflike girls kicking butt is something I'm tired of.

Eh. Maybe I'll check back in to the fandom zeitgeist at episode 8.

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ariadne83 March 4 2009, 20:46:47 UTC
Wow. Rachel Maddow's segment was brilliant. Calm and concise... and a little terrifying. I've never seen someone articulate so clearly why some sections of the conservative movement disturb me.

"if you see Obama derided as a commie these days, some people... hear that as almost a dog-whistle signal that the end is near, and they see that as good news."

For me, it brings to mind all of the cults who have set themselves against the world and talked themselves into believing they were so persecuted, and that the end of days was so near, that they have to kill themselves. It saddens me as a human being, and it infuriates me as a Christian, to see things distorted for political capital because it can kill people.

And word on the tiredness of some of Jon Stewart's jokes.

Sorry, I got all srs bsnss on you!

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dragojustine March 4 2009, 21:14:11 UTC
FWIW, those two complained that the way their interview was edited on her show was unfair. She responded with a non-apology (I don't feel that our editing misrepresented them, but I don't ever want a guest to appear on my show and find it unfair or feel that they were ambushed) and put the unedited interview up for anyone to watch.

One bit that got edited out was also very on-the-nose- she says, "lots of conservative Christians believe that this rapture will happen soon, in their lifetimes. Is that healthy for the country?" Which they... don't have an answer for. I'm with you (and with her) in the way that some religious beliefs lead to such an obsessive focus on the rapture/afterlife/end times/heaven that it's horribly unhealthy for those people, their social group, and our whole society.

Never apologize for srs bsnss!

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ariadne83 March 4 2009, 22:11:46 UTC
"lots of conservative Christians believe that this rapture will happen soon, in their lifetimes. Is that healthy for the country?" Which they... don't have an answer for.

That makes me even angrier because they damn well should have an answer. I've read a lot about various suicide cults, and these people really need to be reminded that many of those were Christian-based cults. I have to say, the thing that bothered me most about their message was that it sounded so reasonable and well-thought-out. They didn't come across as crazies, which makes them *more* likely to have a persuasive impact, so they really need to be aware of that.

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hilarytamar March 17 2009, 21:01:54 UTC

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