Psychology is whatever I say it is!

[silentxsarecool]

Okay, so we've already established that genetics works however the breeder wants it to. When you breed two animals, only the traits you *really* want come out. Our next lesson is that psychological terms mean whatever you want them to mean. And you can use those terms, for which you have invented meanings, to justify absuing animals

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[silverblaidd]

"Taking things out of context and twisting someone's words around and posting it to a community so people can laugh at them is totally not what pet_snark_snark was created for, and it is NOT what we do there. You just ignore those posts you've seen."

"P.S. You're all the same person. And some people you don't even know are you, too. So STFU, nothing you say matters anyway."

[silentxsarecool]

Whoops?

[silverblaidd]

Eh? Oh, no. I just find the dynamics to be intriguing.

A person can hate on dot_pet_snark for doing everything that said hating person does themselves. But! Bring that fact up? Oh hell no! You're all the same person! You're gay! You're a member of dot_pet_snark and therefore everything you say is invalid! Let me just follow you around the internet and comment everywhere you do about dot_pet_snark and how being a member there completely invalidates anything you have to say (you just ignore my part in it, now, you hear?)! That'll prove I'm not obsessed!

It tickles me. :)

[silentxsarecool]

Oh, ok, I gotcha.

I think, what with it being midterms time, that I'm a little oversensitive to criticisms and mistakes. But I find that a little funny, as well.

[bloolark]

Completely unrelated to everything except my complete lack of ability to remember this:

Which aspect of conditioning is ignoring behaviors you don't want? Is it negative punishment or negative reinforcement?

For example, if you remove attention from a parrot who is screaming, and regive it to them when they're silent, that's...?

For whatever reason, my brain REFUSES to remember how this works.

[itsyspy70]

I would think that is actually a 2 part thing.

Ignorning the bad behavior would be negative punishment, by removing something good (attention) for undesired behavior.

Giving attention for being quiet would be positive reinforcement, by adding a reward (attention) for desired behavior.

I think. >_

[silentxsarecool]

You're decreasing a behavior (screaming), so it's punishment. And you're taking something away, so it's negative.

When you give attention to the parrot after it quiets down, it's positive reinforcement. You're increasing the quiet behavior and you're adding something in (your attention.)

I *think* that's how it works. I usually ask my sister, the psych person in the family, for confirmation on these things. She may chime in later to correct me :p

From the wiki link cotton gave on the linked post

[itsyspy70]

Four contexts of operant conditioning: Here the terms "positive" and "negative" are not used in their popular sense, but rather: "positive" refers to addition, and "negative" refers to subtraction. What is added or subtracted may be either reinforcement or punishment. Hence positive punishment is sometimes a confusing term, as it denotes the addition of punishment (such as spanking or an electric shock), a context that may seem very negative in the lay sense. The four procedures are

[papilio_luna]

AHAHAHAH!!! Apparently my job is the greatest racket in the universe, because it totally doesn't exist and isn't a real thing at all! Muahahahahah! We actually just get together at all our lab meetings and dance around laughing evilly that we've pulled the wool over everyone'e eyes.

[evilcresyluna]

Of course! Silly you!! I mean, I'm doing clinicals at one of the local psychiatric facilities and you know what? The whole thing is just made up quackery about silliness. Hearing voices? Suicide attempts? It's all just being SILLY!
The staff meetings are composed of those evil-laugh-dances too, because we're so cleverly fooled everyone! :P

[silentxsarecool]

I don't have to cite you! Psychology isn't *real* science. You're all really just dropouts from *real* science programs.

[rozae]

P.S. and speaking of psychology, I can't beleive her username is "iheartretards."

I can. I mean, c'mon, you gotta love yourself. It's good that she 'hearts' herself. *nodnod*