"he's my son, joshua." oh yeah. i think john's ethics relate to only two things - will it kill the demon, and will it keep his boys safe. if the answer's yes (and if there's no conflict *cough* ), then whatever it is, even if it means trading a life for a life, it's ok with him. which means yes, i can totally see this happening, or something close to it.
LOL! I would love to explore something like that sometime. John so willing to sacrifice himself to destroy the demon, and so angry with Sam for doing so, bt if it was the life of one of his sons on the line, rather than his own, would he not have done exactly what Sam did? I tend to think John doesn't think he would, but he absolutely would. I'd be willing to bet any amount of money you've got that if the demon had been in one of the boys rather than him, unless it would have sacrificed the other boy to not do so, there is no way John would have pulled the trigger even if it meant letting the demon go.
Very different to ante your own life (especially when you're borderline suicidal, as I often consider John to be)for a cause you believe in than it is to ante the life of someone you love, especially your child.
Thanks. I love that it doesn't even seem to be much of a moral issue for him. I tend to believe that John has been making his own rules when it comes to right and wrong for long enough that he may have lost sight of the fact that he isn't the guy in charge of such things. Might be an interesting concept to explore.
ohhhh! That would explain John not showing -and never explaining (I'm trying to figure out how Dean would react if he found out...guess that's why it's a good think John would never let him).
I love the way Joshua accepts John's 'he's my son'.
The longer piece lays knowledge at both John and Sam's feet, although far more John than Sam. But both being at least aware of the idea that it might be a life trade, and willing to look the other way. Which if Dean DID find out, I tend to think, would be a HUGE betrayal for him. Sam's "I didn't know" is most of what steps him off his anger at Sam bringing him to NE in the first place. Would be interesting to see how Dean would react if he realized Sam did know ... or at least, suspected, but brought him anyway.
Betrayed!Dean would be so crushed, it might just upset him enough that he'd have to take off on his own for some space -wouldn't that shock Papa and Sam: But he'd probably just go to a bar, get really plastered, think about how he killed the possessed guy to save Sam, realize it's not the same thing but that he already misses them and head back.
BTW -I love your icon, I was tempted to make a mood theme that was the many faces of Dean and many broods of Sam :D
That icon cracks me up, too. It was made by magickly, who also made the one about fangirls being scary with Dean's head turned almost upside down. It cracks me up how great all these graphics people are at making icons. I originally thought I didn't need any extra user pictures, but about the time I saw the one for this response, I realized I simply was wrong. I need twice as many as I can get ... maybe even more. :D
Ooo... I love this. I absolutely believe John would be willing to do some shady things to keep his boys safe, even more brilliant since he's keeping them completely in the dark. I like this take on "Faith."
Thank you. I loved the idea that John was working behind the scenes here. And that he figures he and his sons have done enough good in the world to balance out a little in their favor when push comes to shove.
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LOL! I would love to explore something like that sometime. John so willing to sacrifice himself to destroy the demon, and so angry with Sam for doing so, bt if it was the life of one of his sons on the line, rather than his own, would he not have done exactly what Sam did? I tend to think John doesn't think he would, but he absolutely would. I'd be willing to bet any amount of money you've got that if the demon had been in one of the boys rather than him, unless it would have sacrificed the other boy to not do so, there is no way John would have pulled the trigger even if it meant letting the demon go.
Very different to ante your own life (especially when you're borderline suicidal, as I often consider John to be)for a cause you believe in than it is to ante the life of someone you love, especially your child.
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Nice take on John's silence in "Faith" and the idea that John can justify one life over another.
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I love the way Joshua accepts John's 'he's my son'.
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The longer piece lays knowledge at both John and Sam's feet, although far more John than Sam. But both being at least aware of the idea that it might be a life trade, and willing to look the other way. Which if Dean DID find out, I tend to think, would be a HUGE betrayal for him. Sam's "I didn't know" is most of what steps him off his anger at Sam bringing him to NE in the first place. Would be interesting to see how Dean would react if he realized Sam did know ... or at least, suspected, but brought him anyway.
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BTW -I love your icon, I was tempted to make a mood theme that was the many faces of Dean and many broods of Sam :D
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That icon cracks me up, too. It was made by magickly, who also made the one about fangirls being scary with Dean's head turned almost upside down. It cracks me up how great all these graphics people are at making icons. I originally thought I didn't need any extra user pictures, but about the time I saw the one for this response, I realized I simply was wrong. I need twice as many as I can get ... maybe even more. :D
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