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kilodalton June 18 2012, 23:22:05 UTC
My favorite bit of their whole dynamic is that scene in The Wedding of River Song where Amy has the wine out ready for River coming. I think it was the first time I really grasped that River is Amy's daughter.

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... for the day that Amy gets the wine out for Professor Song ... who never comes ; ;

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kilodalton June 19 2012, 21:44:29 UTC
... if he's the same coward who wouldn't even fess up to Young Amy that Old Amy had to die, and made Rory do the dirty work keeping the door shut, I doubt it =/

"The man who runs" =/

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kelkat9 June 18 2012, 16:21:53 UTC
I am very curious to read what other people think about the parental relationship of Amy and Rory to River. I admit that this is a point that really bugs me. This is a multi faceted issue. I think first thing I don't understand or have a hard time understanding was Amy's reaction post A Good Man Goes to War. It almost seems like she doesn't react that her baby has been stolen and it's just life back on the Tardis. The only glimpse of motherly outrage is in the The Wedding of River Song ( ... )

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fogsblue June 21 2012, 06:10:23 UTC
I think first thing I don't understand or have a hard time understanding was Amy's reaction post A Good Man Goes to War. It almost seems like she doesn't react that her baby has been stolen and it's just life back on the Tardis. The only glimpse of motherly outrage is in the The Wedding of River Song.

I completely agree with this. It's one of those things that really frustrated me about S6. Amy barely even reacts when her baby is stolen. No matter the extenuating circumstances I just CAN NOT believe that a mother would have so little concern about her child being stolen. Even if she knows her baby grows up etc, there's no mother who would just shrug it off.

(Sorry, that is one of the things I absolutely detest about S6).

Of course, there is the instance where they drink wine together in the back yard which was a scene that did convey that they were close in a way. Still, I don't see that as a mother/daughter moment but more as friendship and sharing the madcap life with the Doctor that brings companions together.This is pretty much ( ... )

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viomisehunt June 18 2012, 18:01:47 UTC
All of I can think of was that moment when the very young River, who knew exactly who Amy was, asked for help, reached out to her mother, and her mother shoots her. River knows who the child is, and actually approving of of her Mother's rationalization is al the more disturbing ( ... )

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donna_c_punk June 19 2012, 03:02:32 UTC
Steven Moffat has two sons.

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viomisehunt June 19 2012, 03:51:42 UTC
Thank you. I wonder if writing as the father of sons gives him a different perspective than a father who has a daughter? Still, one's child is one's child. It shouldn't matter, considering what happen, if River was male or female, considering what happen. I think a father would be equally distressed at losing a son, an dwanting to recaptured that time to bond with his infant --, watching him or her grow, take their first step, say their first word....It does seem as that Amy and Rory got past that rather quickly. Then again they helped their daughter change time to save her and try to save her from becoming a murderer.

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randomgirl666 July 10 2012, 22:24:15 UTC
For me, the most significant clue is when Amy more or less kills Kovarian and makes the little speech about how she'll never have her baby daughter again. I think for all intents and purposes, Amy did lose her child and the fact she's okay with killing someone over it shows she isn't completely disconnected from it all. Whether it has really registered that River is Mels is Melody, I don't know but from the garden scene in the s6 finale, I'm guessing not ( ... )

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