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kilodalton June 4 2012, 15:09:43 UTC
For me, it seems like the sort of thing where at some point we should have seen some pushback from Rory (or a fight, or angry!sex, or something) just because it's such a human reaction, but canonically I can't justify that. All the same, I feel like some doubt/negativity/you-pick-the-word on his part would have made sense, just because he's a person, and no matter how much faith he had in her, that had to be hard on him. Similarly, no matter the explanation for Amy's hallucination with House (be it guilt, or fear, or based in reality), I feel like it has to come from my head!canon, because I don't think there was much onscreen to point us in one direction or another.

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fogsblue June 6 2012, 02:13:43 UTC
All the same, I feel like some doubt/negativity/you-pick-the-word on his part would have made sense, just because he's a person, and no matter how much faith he had in her

THIS!! It's an example of how often the emotional consequences are overlooked now. There should have been something, even just ashort argument, some doubt. Just something that acknowledges Amy ran off the night before her wedding with the Doctor.

But that aside, no matter what you feel about Rose and Mickey, it can't be denied that there were often consequences to their actions in terms of their relationship.

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kelkat9 June 4 2012, 16:27:43 UTC
Great topic! I do think that Rory had some doubts but I think part of that was his own insecurity about his place in Amy's life. I think this was quite clear in the episode Day of the Moon (I think but it could have been The Impossible Astronaut) when he was listening in on Amy and the Doctor talking. I've always felt that he just wanted Amy home and safe and perhaps was a bit jealous of her friendship with the Doctor. I think he grew more secure after traveling with them for a while ( ... )

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bitter_suite24 June 4 2012, 17:09:19 UTC
I felt like Amy had the most doubts, but I also thought Rory had some as well. Two specific incidents come to mind. The first is in "Vampires of Venice". At one point the Doctor orders Amy to do what he says and is a bit short and snappish with her. Amy looks surprised, but does what he says. Rory looks at the Doctor and says, "Thanks." I don't think he'd have thanked the Doctor for purposely being short with Amy if he hadn't had any doubts at all ( ... )

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lyricwrites June 4 2012, 22:30:04 UTC
I think Rory had doubts, yes. He spent most of "The Vampires of Venice" disliking the Doctor quite a bit. He only started to warm up to the Doctor when the Doctor ordered Amy back to the TARDIS, and I think there were two reasons for that: first, of course, that he was trying to keep Amy safe, but secondly because their interaction in that scene was very much not as potential love interests. If anything, the Doctor sounded more like a snappish father playing the "Because I say so," card, and Rory would know first-hand that Amy does not take that sort of thing from a boyfriend ( ... )

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viomisehunt June 5 2012, 17:53:09 UTC
The thing about comparing the relationship between Rory and the Doctor to the relationship between Mickey and the Doctor: Davies never meant us to see anyone as the Doctor's equal--especially to Rose. Mickey's role was never intended to compete with what the Doctor could offer Rose. Mickey was part of the "nothing" Rose wanted to escape. Mickey's,( Adam, almost every human male), narrative purpose was to show thethat audience Doctor the superior "Man". For any woman (remember Donna is making due with Shaun) the Doctor is a better than any human male, as we can see by the glut of flaws each character is given.

However, no way is Rory the boy toy that Mickey --(and to a point Adam sand Jack)--was for Rose, although Amy does appear to take Rory's love and loyalty as much for granted as Rose did Mickey.
And Rose didn't love Mickey. She proved that with Adam and Jack. She was always looking to better deal Mickey ( ... )

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lyricwrites June 5 2012, 23:32:47 UTC
Rory represented real life and being a grown-up--a life Amy was not certain she was ready to face. Rory had a vocation--he was a nurse. Amy had a job as a kissagram--a pretend nurse, a pretend nun--nothing real--nothing to commit to. I imagine she had been a pretend bride. Now she was about to become a real bride. Scary for her.

This, very much. Amy's character arc is all about growing up, and I think it's very significant that her job was basically playing pretend with people.

I love how he pretended NOT to be impressed with the TARDIS.

I actually read this as a nice bit of characterization on how Rory copes with things. Coma patients apparently haunting the village? Methodically take pictures of 'em. Died and turned into a Roman? Do Roman things, and calmly characterize it as "very distracting" when asked. It's very Rory to walk into a bigger-on-the-inside time machine, deal with it being a bigger-on-the-inside time machine, and calmly move on to how it can be (which he had apparently gone and calmly, methodically ( ... )

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viomisehunt June 5 2012, 23:39:16 UTC
Oh I am certain he reserched it, but to see it person had to be impressive. I think there was a bit of male competitive spirit in his response.

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lyricwrites June 5 2012, 23:55:43 UTC
Probably. It must have helped that he wasn't blindsided by it; Amy had been telling him about the Doctor and the blue box and the swimming pool being in the library for years. On the whole, I think his is one of my favorite TARDIS reactions.

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