When I watched that episode the first time I basically just reacted like this: "Really, Doctor, you're going to get mad at your clone for commiting genocide? You?"
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I tend to see Seven as the "Midlife Crisis" Doctor. He's replacing himself in his (rather unique) relationship with Ace, and going about dealing with things he's put off for centuries. It's like he either expects to outright die or he just knows that he's suddenly someone who can live with these things and wants it all dealt with before he regenerates into someone less able to do the terrible things if the terrible things need doing.
Ten's not exactly a pacficist though, so it's a bit rich for him to disown what needs done. It's almost Ninelike, who had that need to keep his hands clean at all costs. I am hardcore about Daleks though, because they completely lack any sort of niceness and no matter how many chances he gives them they're never going to change. Davros might be able to, perhaps, but I doubt it at this point.
I don't think he has to like genociding Daleks, but I do think it's quite WTF for him to turn round and pretend he'd never ever do that ever.
yet only the 7th Doctor and the metacrisis 10th Doctor went through with their attempts to eliminate him/the DaleksIt bears mention that there was some internal dispute as to the ending of Remembrance. I've heard told that the final ending used was an earlier draft and used in error
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I loathe the confrontation with Davros in "Resurrection", because the Doctor has a massive moral conflict over whether to shoot Davros in cold blood, but doesn't have any problem with killing Daleks, including with biological weaponry, at any point. It looks really nastily as if he only has problems with killing people who are humanoid, which is really not a characterisation I want in any version of the Doctor.
Metacrisis Doctor forces some sort of character conflict that's weirdly abstract and somewhat unsupported by the text, because the writers wanted to see that conflict play out.
I think you're spot-on. In order for the whole ~you made me better, now you can do the same for him~ thing to not ring hollow, TenToo needs to have done Something Bad. Yet ... you're completely right, it's not supported by the text, nor is it reflective of Ten's own actions over the past 2 seasons.
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Sheer hypocrisy :(
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When I watched that episode the first time I basically just reacted like this: "Really, Doctor, you're going to get mad at your clone for commiting genocide? You?"
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Yeah I was watching that scene, feeling like: "Two words, Doc -- BABY SPIDERS!!! Ring a bell?" D=
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Ten's not exactly a pacficist though, so it's a bit rich for him to disown what needs done. It's almost Ninelike, who had that need to keep his hands clean at all costs. I am hardcore about Daleks though, because they completely lack any sort of niceness and no matter how many chances he gives them they're never going to change. Davros might be able to, perhaps, but I doubt it at this point.
I don't think he has to like genociding Daleks, but I do think it's quite WTF for him to turn round and pretend he'd never ever do that ever.
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I think you're spot-on. In order for the whole ~you made me better, now you can do the same for him~ thing to not ring hollow, TenToo needs to have done Something Bad. Yet ... you're completely right, it's not supported by the text, nor is it reflective of Ten's own actions over the past 2 seasons.
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