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Steven Moffat Retropective Fest: Day One - The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances

Aug 09, 2010 22:26

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promethia_tenk August 9 2010, 23:08:39 UTC

Every time I watch these episodes again, I'm gobsmacked all over again by how good they are. Later Moffat may have gotten more ambitious, more timey-wimey, more genre-bending, more trippy, etc., but here he shows that he can do a more or less straight-forward Who story better than anyone (sorry, my Moffat bias is huge--he just hits all my buttons as a writer). I feel like his writing and plotting is also a lot tighter here than it becomes later. I'm rather a fan of his jam-it-full-of-ideas style, but there is something really satisfying about how solid and complete these episodes are ( ... )

mari_mac1109 August 9 2010, 23:52:58 UTC

I think you just hit every point I would have made bang-on.

AGREED.

apple_pathways August 10 2010, 00:34:03 UTC

Rose isn't a great favorite of mine, but I love her in this ep, and I love her and Nine together.

SECOND! I think having Jack as a buffer between her and the Doctor helps. But yes, everything good about Rose is in full effect in these two eps.

stick_poker August 10 2010, 14:00:34 UTC

Yup yup yup, right with you. Every time I find out *another* favourite thing was written by Moff (and these two episodes, I only worked it out fairly recently) I realise how directly he hits my buttons.

I think I need a new icon with Moff's mouth in place of Eleven's. Because, you know, ultimately it's coming from him...

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utopias August 10 2010, 01:27:35 UTC

I was so surprised when I looked back and saw that all of my favourite new Who episodes were written by the Moff. He's a lovely writer.

femaelstrom27 August 10 2010, 02:35:36 UTC

Before I make a final judgment call, I'll need to take some time and step back from my Eleven-mania, and then rewatch S5 again and then give a definitive answer, but: at this point in time, as far as I know, TEC/TDD are my favorite Who episodes of all time. (I have thought long and hard about this!)

For one thing, the concept is absolutely ingenious, and I have a total ladyboner for brilliant plots and concepts. "Physical injuries...as plague."

Fantastic dialogue and characterization. That goes without saying.

TERRIFYING. It scared the hell out of me. Still gives me the heebie jeebies a little bit, even after at least 6 viewings ( ... )

lemonzebad August 10 2010, 09:17:00 UTC

Back in 2005 these two freaking terrified me. I didn't even watch the second half because I was so scared. They were the scary thing I measured every other scary thing against. The reason the Weeping Angels never bothered me that much? Not as bad as the Gas Mask Kid. Then, about two weeks ago I went back and decided to watch them because I had nothing to watch and they honestly couldn't be that bad. Turns out they weren't, I ended up laughing through the whole thing. They were a really great couple of episodes back when I liked Rose and Jack hadn't gone all super emo. And Nine, I loved Nine.