Hello Sweetie: A Doctor/River Essay.

Jul 08, 2010 18:13

Hello there fellow Elevenites. *waves* S5 was so full of meta that I'm still trying to process it all, but for now I've got a Doctor/River essay to share with you.

SPOILERS: All of S5 + Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead.

(Oh, and if you like, you’re very welcome to see this as a ‘ship manifesto. *g*)

Sh! Spoilers. )

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chargasm July 8 2010, 18:42:07 UTC
This is fantastic. I love the quotes you used!

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elisi July 8 2010, 19:26:40 UTC
*beams* Your icon is making me laugh. And I am a quote whore (if there is such a thing.) *g*

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tardis_coral July 8 2010, 18:46:20 UTC
i'm going to be thinking about this all day at work...
a wonderful essay, and i plan on responding at greater length later tonight. after all this has settled in my brain.
<3
(i think you just convinced me to love River ...which I never thought I would)

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elisi July 8 2010, 19:31:07 UTC
i'm going to be thinking about this all day at work...
*grins evilly* It's been going in circles in my head for... weeks. Months even.

a wonderful essay, and i plan on responding at greater length later tonight. after all this has settled in my brain.
Looking forward to it!

(i think you just convinced me to love River ...which I never thought I would)
*dances* Seriously, that is the best compliment you could possibly give me! <3

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tardis_coral July 9 2010, 05:31:33 UTC
alright, you have a lot to answer for! i barely paid any attention at all to the students i was supposed to be teaching today, and all because of your essay bouncing around in my head! :) not that i'm complaining ( ... )

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elisi July 9 2010, 13:07:33 UTC
alright, you have a lot to answer for! i barely paid any attention at all to the students i was supposed to be teaching today, and all because of your essay bouncing around in my head! :) not that i'm complaining.
:)

and i feel like the doctor had a similar reaction, because in TTOA, she was smug, and he was on alert, trying to put distance between them. he and i shared the same feelings: this woman is trouble, and i REALLY don't want to get into whatever epic, emotional adventure we're about to begin. i don't even KNOW her! and she acts as if she already knows so much, and treats him like a child that needs placating. but he was intrigued by her, and so was i, even though i resented her.
I think the show has been very clever in making us follow the Doctor's POV in all this. lizzledpink makes a lot of excellent points in this comment, pointing out all the ways in which the Doctor begins to re-evaluate River during the Angel eps.

in the season 5 finale, we saw river strong, capable, and a little bit terrifying. i admit to being impressed, but ( ... )

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weavercat July 8 2010, 19:05:11 UTC
This was a delight to read. My goodness, you've summed up all of those casual-twinges of 'Could-be-and-should-be' that happened every time the Doctor and River interacted with each other. You have solidified my fan-girling for Ms./Mrs. River Song. ;)

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elisi July 8 2010, 19:39:53 UTC
This was a delight to read.
Thank you!

My goodness, you've summed up all of those casual-twinges of 'Could-be-and-should-be' that happened every time the Doctor and River interacted with each other.
Heh. It's what I do... (My Buffyverse meta could probably reach halfway to the moon. I am THRILLED BEYOND WORDS that the Whoniverse finally has the same amount of layers to it.)

You have solidified my fan-girling for Ms./Mrs. River Song. ;)
In which case, my work here is done! ;)

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persiflage_1 July 8 2010, 19:50:01 UTC
You know, when I've finished working on my big bang fic at the end of the month, I'm going to re-watch the Library eps, and then River's eps of S5 because you're right - seeing River and TEN together will be really intriguing in light of having seen River and ELEVEN together.

By the way, have you heard the very exciting spoilery rumour about DW Season 7? (Not Season 6, but Season 7!)

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elisi July 8 2010, 19:57:10 UTC
seeing River and TEN together will be really intriguing in light of having seen River and ELEVEN together.
That's what I'm thinking. (I lent my S1-4 DVDs to a friend, and am now waiting impatiently to get them back... *g*)

By the way, have you heard the very exciting spoilery rumour about DW Season 7? (Not Season 6, but Season 7!)
OMG YES! *flails*

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persiflage_1 July 8 2010, 19:59:44 UTC
Oh dear!! Luckily none of my local RL friends are into DW, so I'm safe from marauding borrowers! :D

OMG YES! *flails*

THIS!! I REALLY REALLY hope it's true!!

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elisi July 8 2010, 20:08:45 UTC
Oh dear!! Luckily none of my local RL friends are into DW, so I'm safe from marauding borrowers! :D
Hee. It's an LJ friend, actually, who has become intrigued by the Who-centric squee that keeps flooding her flist. :)

THIS!! I REALLY REALLY hope it's true!!
*crosses fingers and toes*

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mrswilson4 July 8 2010, 22:08:46 UTC
Oh oh oh oh this is so brilliant I don't know where to begin. I think I won't now. But I will. Because oh girl you are amazing and have out my thoughts in perfect order here.

I'll just say that I've watched again a couple of times the Library episodes after watching S5, and it's so annoying. Because you stand there, KNOWING, and seeing the Doctor doing nothing, acting like a fool. And you're just thinking "FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, DOCTOR! IT'S RIVER SONG! This is the last time you are going to see her, act like a proper version of you!" So infuriating.

Anyway... I'll come back! ♥

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elisi July 9 2010, 06:46:27 UTC
Oh oh oh oh this is so brilliant I don't know where to begin. I think I won't now. But I will. Because oh girl you are amazing and have out my thoughts in perfect order here.
:D :D :D

Because you stand there, KNOWING, and seeing the Doctor doing nothing, acting like a fool. And you're just thinking "FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, DOCTOR! IT'S RIVER SONG! This is the last time you are going to see her, act like a proper version of you!" So infuriating.
*nods* I think he probably spends a LOT of time being nice, just to make up for having been/going to be such an idiot when he was young. (I've currently got two (LJ) friends watching S5, and I very much look forward to their reactions when watching the Library episodes...

Anyway... I'll come back! ♥
Looking forward to it!

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