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Oct 23, 2008 10:02

I like JT Leroy's books. I have heard Lolita is greatly disturbing. Have any of you seen the movie called "Heavenly Creatures" with Kate Winslet? I recommend watching it.

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carabosse October 23 2008, 19:07:01 UTC
Was your enjoyment of JT Leroy's books hampered at all by him not being real?

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dookiedragon October 24 2008, 03:31:56 UTC
...Go on...

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JT Leroy carabosse October 24 2008, 03:44:43 UTC
JT Leroy was an identity created by a woman named Laura Albert. It was a pretty big controversy when she got outed, because people thought she was cruelly perpetrating a hoax in excess of the regular anonymity of just having a pen name.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/03/08/albert/

http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/authors/life_after_jt_laura_albert_not_sorry_moving_on_59749.asp

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Re: JT Leroy dookiedragon October 24 2008, 06:08:36 UTC
Oh yes! I remember her now!
Sorry. I was having a retard moment.

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girlspell October 23 2008, 20:50:47 UTC
MY BRAIN IS ON THE FRIZZ LOL

EDIT POST:

I never saw Heavenly Creatures. I know it is based (very loosely) on an incicdent in Anne Perry's life. Perry is a best selling author now. When Taylor was 13, she developed a close relationship with a 13 year old girl. That girl killed her mother with the help of Perry. Because of the their ages and the times (1950's New Zealand) neither went to prison, but placed in to a juvie home. They never saw each other again. Perry never tried to hide her past, but is very tired of the attention that movie put on her. Ther other girl lives in Britan and raises horses. Intersting that the film aged them to 15 and implied a lesbian relationship, when it was not really. I guess it made a better picture. Not the pathetic murder it was in real life

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inner_starfish November 5 2008, 10:55:28 UTC
I know it is based (very loosely) on an incident in Anne Perry's life.

Actually it's pretty accurate. Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh (who directed and wrote the film) went through all the court documents, which included diaries belonging to the other girl involved, and were faithful to events as they happened. Very little was fabricated for the movie (even the CGI fantasy sequences depicted the detailed fantasy world the girls themselves created).

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lythinae November 9 2008, 23:26:44 UTC
Actually, both girls (Anne Perry/Juliet Hulme was 15, and Pauline Parker was 16) spent around 5 years in prison - Perry/Hulme at Mt Eden woman's prison. One of the release conditions was that they were not to contact each other again.

See here and here.

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silvedine November 3 2008, 13:47:05 UTC
Lolita isn't so much disturbing as just plain sick. It's awesomely written, so well in fact that at times you find it hard to not sympathize with the main character. I think while i was reading it i more than once found myself cheering for him to make it through whatever madness had come upon him at the time and had to stop to remind myself that he's the bad guy. :p

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alexandra_777 November 3 2008, 16:01:07 UTC
Me, too. I had to remind myself not to be soooo sympathetic towards him. That's how you know the movie was a success, it thoroughly affects your emotions, and you get absorbed in the movie. In real life, worse things have happened, and we have to remind ourselves not to get caught up in the heat of the moment when we hear or see something disturbing and disgusting.
But yes, sick is an appropriate term, though I'd have no problem watching it again.
Humanity and the media are pretty much obsessed with gore, and violence....
it's in our nature, but we have to always remind ourselves, we have will, human will, and thought, and that in turn has the upper hand to our "nature".

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silvedine November 9 2008, 04:12:23 UTC
I didn't even know they made a movie out of it, i was referring to the book. I always find movies a disappointment after reading the material they are based on.

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kittybacklash November 20 2008, 01:09:19 UTC
Yeah, the last paragraph or so where he's kind of saying goodbye I was thinking "I'll miss you...you sick sick bastard."

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heroineoheroine November 3 2008, 14:29:09 UTC
I actually met Laura Albert in my Feminism class last fall. She's a very interesting/ cool lady.

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alexandra_777 November 3 2008, 15:56:18 UTC
wow, that's neat. Where did you take a feminism class?

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tattythistle November 3 2008, 15:46:35 UTC
Literally a week ago I first heard of this film. I kind of want to watch it, just out of curiosity. Although I'd rather watch the first version of it.

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