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demeter in disneysecret

SECRETS POST #31.

Apr 10, 2011 11:56

» SECRETS POST #31.

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film: beauty and the beast, `secrets post, ♯: they're just movies..., ♯: anon comes out to play, ♯: trollface.jpg, film: brother bear, film: pocahontas, etc: cosplay

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Suggestions/questions/concerns thread. demeter April 10 2011, 15:59:56 UTC

Please post your suggestions/questions/concerns about this week's secrets here.

Re: Suggestions/questions/concerns thread. hepburnette April 11 2011, 05:14:03 UTC

Please could you ban comments like this? http://community.livejournal.com/disneysecret/38285.html?thread=724365#t724365
It's awfully rude to call someone out like that and put them on the spot.

Re: Suggestions/questions/concerns thread. demeter April 11 2011, 07:29:23 UTC

It's also rude to be whiny and passive aggressive whilst legitimately being called out on being a hypocrite but Melissa keeps doing it lol :3

Re: Suggestions/questions/concerns thread. mdmbrightside April 11 2011, 08:08:56 UTC

I'd agree, Mods. The last time someone was called out they were harassed by trolls until the thread had to be frozen. Someone will insist their guilt, someone will insist their innocence and it will go round and round until the discussion ends gets beleaguered and nasty, as it's already getting here.

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General comments thread. demeter April 10 2011, 16:00:29 UTC

Please post your general comments about this week's secrets here.

Re: General comments thread. princessatta April 10 2011, 19:22:21 UTC

This week feels like a lot of fellow fandom-ers are really frustrated with each other.

Comments for secret #01. demeter April 10 2011, 16:01:02 UTC

http://i.imgur.com/cqSra.png

Re: Comments for secret #01. demeter April 10 2011, 16:48:49 UTC

In the beginning it seemed a lot of secrets about BatB/Belle fan-related secrets were localized frustrations about infamous stans. But now it seems the Pandora's Box on the craziness surrounding this movie has been farther flung than previously thought, and disneysecret has become some sort of safe haven from it/lightning rod for it. It's all very interesting o_q

Re: Comments for secret #01. hepburnette April 11 2011, 05:15:15 UTC

I agree, but I'm really nervous about the backlash. It's bound to happen :S

Re: Comments for secret #01. demeter April 10 2011, 22:06:52 UTC

THIS! Belle isn't my favorite and I'm not in love with BatB, but it did inspire me so much when I was younger and I do still love it and Belle, but it isn't easy getting along with my friends who are stans. Similarly, my favorite princess is Ariel and the stans for her drive me nuts too! I've noticed that Ariel stans are a certain type of personality, and I'm just NOT that personality. And it feels like they only obsess over characters who are of a similar personality and it just gets so annoying.

Additionally, this could probably be a secret in and of itself, I have thought for a while now that your reasoning is why so many of the Belle/BatB stans have taken to being in love with Tangled. At least from what I've noticed, esp. on Tumblr. In fact, I've seen so many comments that sort of support my reasoning. Comments like:

OMG Flynn's death is just like Beast's, OMG Rapunzel is a brunette, OMG Rapunzel and Flynn's romance is believable like Belle and Beast's romance, etc.

:/

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Comments for secret #02. demeter April 10 2011, 16:01:32 UTC

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9937/brotherbearsecret.png

Re: Comments for secret #02. demeter April 10 2011, 19:39:52 UTC

I agree actually. I personally have no problem with either and my great-grandmother was fullblooded Cherokee. It could be the way I was raised, being of multiple ethnicities myself, but I'm just not at all insulted by either. I feel like it doesn't make anymore sense to hate on these films because of possible misrepresentation than any other Disney film that contains stereotypes *shrugs* The problem is, whenever adapting something based on what history books tell us, there's likely to be something offensive. We can't go back and change the past, nor can we ever be 100 percent certain that we've uncovered the full story since we can end up with so many accounts of the same event that differs. Additionally, it's Disney. When has Disney ever cared about cultural sensitivity lol.

Re: Comments for secret #02. xdreaminghumble April 11 2011, 05:51:51 UTC

Pocahontas gets hate due to the whole "historically inaccurate" conflict. And like how the Anon posted above me, also because of the peaceful but untrue ending the film had. I love Pocahontas, so it's a shame.

Brother Bear's natives are from the Inuits in Alaska while in Pocahontas she is from the Powhatan tribe. So there is really no reason people would critisize Brother Bear. It's the facts that people bash in Pocahontas, not the use of spiritual animals.

I adore both films, either way. :)

Re: Comments for secret #02. demeter April 10 2011, 19:51:28 UTC

I feel kind of ignorant, but what's offensive about including spirit animals in portrayals of Native Americans? :S

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Comments for secret #03. demeter April 10 2011, 16:02:02 UTC

http://i.imgur.com/01XVR.png

Re: Comments for secret #03. kaelakaelakaela April 10 2011, 18:32:57 UTC

no shame, she's gorgeousssss

Re: Comments for secret #03. mintbunny April 10 2011, 21:44:02 UTC

Don't worry, sometimes I wish my hair could be even an 1/8 of what some animated girls' hair looks like.

Re: Comments for secret #03. hepburnette April 11 2011, 05:23:17 UTC

I see lots of people gush on about how gorgeous her hair is and I completely agree. I wanted her hair sooo badly as a kid!

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