I don't suppose anyone on LJ is still about to read this, but alas, I still have three hours to kill. So here goes! Lee's badassery, by popular demand
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Can't read this right now (after all, BSG is on and there's only a few minutes left in the break) but I will be back to tell you how awesome this is later. :)
I love you for this. People so often forget the awesomeness that is Lee Adama. I'm here in the PST, watching the last few eps of 4.5 before the shiny new, and remembering why I love it.
Me too! I'm right in the middle of "Revelations," basking in the glory of take-charge Lee tag teaming with Kara all over again.
I can't keep wishing that Tigh had stepped up right from the get go and told D'anna, "Look, I'm speaking for the others, and you'd better let the hostages go or there's no way in hell your revered Final Five will speak to you until you do." Sigh. Then again, it did give Lee a chance to shine.
They are, in fact, my favorite team, and that's a whole post unto itself. I do wish Tigh had stepped up, but he didn't and that's true to character too, because he's the one that repeatedly fell apart when faced with a challenge, and rather than admit that he wasn't quite capable of handling it, pretended he was, and dug himself deeper. Lee, however, spends half of his time thinking that he's not capable, then surprising even himself with the hidden depths of strategic genius. Or at least his practical capability. And still he can be so very idiosyncratically sweet. I love him.
Yes. Just...yes. I just watched Revelations for the first time before tonight's new episode, and the whole episode just made me be like "aww, that's my boy."
Valley of Darkness! Oh man, I haven't watched that in forever. No party in aft damage control!
the whole episode just made me be like "aww, that's my boy."
Yes! I just knew he had it in him. I've wanted Lee to eventually become president ever since the trial, and it was everything I'd hoped for.
Valley of Darkness is a classic, IMO, an often-overlooked gem. It's not just a simple "Cylons have them on the run again" episode -- between the different plotlines of Roslin, Tigh, Lee, and Crashdown, where all are striving to make the right decisions and keep people alive, it's a nice meditation on the nature of leadership and keeping calm under fire. Roslin and Lee come off best, of course. :)
I think Lee without self-talk is like oreos without filling. He is usually Mr. Keep it Together, but I love the way Bamber plays it -- he comes through in a pinch, but he shows it's not effortless or easy.
I think a large part of why I love Valley of Darkness, aside from the Lee awesomeness and the Kara/Helo buddy cop and her apartment, is that the whole thing takes place practically in real time and starts moments after the last episode.
Super stuff! And so true-- our boy is such a badass. Mr. Bee and I were discussing our TV crushes this evening (he's a big D'Anna fan), and I was trying to explain how sexy the geeky/badass combo is-- and Lee is a prime example (Tennant's Doctor is also another great example, albeit in a more geeky vein).
Hee, yes! Come to think of it, he is a geek. If he lived in our world, he would probably be a lawyer or a wonk. A sexy, badass wonk with a glock. And an enormous library.
I think one of Lee's strengths is foresight, being able to take a long view. I think he's also pretty good at reading people (with Romo, for example, I think he knows Romo's trying to manipulate him -- but even though he thinks Romo's disingenuous, he still does have a point). It would have been interesting if they'd explored the devious side of Lee a little more. That Roslin jailbreak was masterful!
It was! And slipping Kara the camera stuff to steal the Blackbird in the Pegasus arc was more devious Lee awesomeness. The wink. The smirk. **sigh**
On the geeky side, I lurv the whole geeky lecture about how he used the pulse generators to save the ship in the mini. Other favorite geeky Lee moments: he talks to Zarek about reading his banned book (geeky AND devious), his Colonial Day sense of civic pride : ), and just his general, straight-laced by-the-book awesomeness. And I don't know if it's canon, but you know he spent all his spare time studying at the Academy and WC...
I think the foresight is one of the reasons he's such a great leader. He can see ten steps ahead of everyone else, predict what's going to happen next, and act accordingly. Might fine sense of strat-e-gery.
I love it when the Bad Twins are plotting! And I love how devious Lee is in that arc. (You can tell it totally impresses Kara, even if she's a bit surprised.) And the way he secret text-messages Kara under Stinger's nose in that Raptor? He's really, really devious when he's up against people in charge whom he thinks just shouldn't be. He even swore an oath to Tigh that he wouldn't mutiny or try to subvert the crew, and hello. He lied. I don't think he believed he owed any loyalty to an unlawful military dictator.
And the banned book moment! Yes! People say that he is enamored of rules, but that's not quite right. He's not afraid to challenge the rules if he thinks they're unjust.
I am loving all this Lee love. Poor guy is in for some rough times ahead, but I'm looking forward to seeing him in the fight.
I love this post! You've nailed so many of my favorite Lee moments (including the murmuring to himself in "Valley of Darkness," which was just talking about over in queenofthorns' LJ. It's so aggravating that people like to focus on Lee's "emo" and ignore the fact that the rest of the time he's a TOTAL BADASS. The fact that he's a badass AND has a sensitive side makes him the complete package. ;)
The fact that he's a badass AND has a sensitive side makes him the complete package. ;)
Word. And some people can't get that he's not all over the place with his sensitive side all the time. He doesn't always show what he feels. From "Act of Contrition," and Adama's speech about how they all have to project stability because all eyes are on them, his game face rarely cracks when he's on duty. His personal life is a whoooole other can of worms, but I don't think it's a crime to have feelings.
I think some people focus too much on his one moment of weakness, too (letting go of the hole in the flightsuit) and exaggerate its importance without considering the context. It's not like he slit his wrists, he'd just suffered a catastrophic explosion and a concussion and the loss of his faith in humanity at the same time. But after they resuscitate him, he climbed back out of that darkness all by himself -- he wouldn't even talk to Adama about it -- and it's hardly like it dragged on and on or stopped him from doing his job. This post
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Can't read this right now (after all, BSG is on and there's only a few minutes left in the break) but I will be back to tell you how awesome this is later. :)
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I can't keep wishing that Tigh had stepped up right from the get go and told D'anna, "Look, I'm speaking for the others, and you'd better let the hostages go or there's no way in hell your revered Final Five will speak to you until you do." Sigh. Then again, it did give Lee a chance to shine.
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Valley of Darkness! Oh man, I haven't watched that in forever. No party in aft damage control!
And I love his little pep talks to himself. Hee.
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Yes! I just knew he had it in him. I've wanted Lee to eventually become president ever since the trial, and it was everything I'd hoped for.
Valley of Darkness is a classic, IMO, an often-overlooked gem. It's not just a simple "Cylons have them on the run again" episode -- between the different plotlines of Roslin, Tigh, Lee, and Crashdown, where all are striving to make the right decisions and keep people alive, it's a nice meditation on the nature of leadership and keeping calm under fire. Roslin and Lee come off best, of course. :)
I think Lee without self-talk is like oreos without filling. He is usually Mr. Keep it Together, but I love the way Bamber plays it -- he comes through in a pinch, but he shows it's not effortless or easy.
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I think one of Lee's strengths is foresight, being able to take a long view. I think he's also pretty good at reading people (with Romo, for example, I think he knows Romo's trying to manipulate him -- but even though he thinks Romo's disingenuous, he still does have a point). It would have been interesting if they'd explored the devious side of Lee a little more. That Roslin jailbreak was masterful!
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On the geeky side, I lurv the whole geeky lecture about how he used the pulse generators to save the ship in the mini. Other favorite geeky Lee moments: he talks to Zarek about reading his banned book (geeky AND devious), his Colonial Day sense of civic pride : ), and just his general, straight-laced by-the-book awesomeness. And I don't know if it's canon, but you know he spent all his spare time studying at the Academy and WC...
I think the foresight is one of the reasons he's such a great leader. He can see ten steps ahead of everyone else, predict what's going to happen next, and act accordingly. Might fine sense of strat-e-gery.
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And the banned book moment! Yes! People say that he is enamored of rules, but that's not quite right. He's not afraid to challenge the rules if he thinks they're unjust.
I am loving all this Lee love. Poor guy is in for some rough times ahead, but I'm looking forward to seeing him in the fight.
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Word. And some people can't get that he's not all over the place with his sensitive side all the time. He doesn't always show what he feels. From "Act of Contrition," and Adama's speech about how they all have to project stability because all eyes are on them, his game face rarely cracks when he's on duty. His personal life is a whoooole other can of worms, but I don't think it's a crime to have feelings.
I think some people focus too much on his one moment of weakness, too (letting go of the hole in the flightsuit) and exaggerate its importance without considering the context. It's not like he slit his wrists, he'd just suffered a catastrophic explosion and a concussion and the loss of his faith in humanity at the same time. But after they resuscitate him, he climbed back out of that darkness all by himself -- he wouldn't even talk to Adama about it -- and it's hardly like it dragged on and on or stopped him from doing his job. This post ( ... )
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