Leaving Livejournal

Sep 20, 2007 08:33


First of all, I'd like to apologize for the great length of this post. However, I think it's significant enough material that I don't feel like LJ-cutting it. I hope you'll read it all, and consider it deeply.

We're Leaving Livejournal. Soon.

It seems Livejournal and Six Apart are slowly self-destructing under the weight of their own ( Read more... )

other people's idiocy, argh, essays/writings, announcements, strikeout

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IJ catwoman69y2k September 20 2007, 15:56:34 UTC
Ah okay...

Im slowly but surely attempting to get all my stuff carried over. I ran a python script that transferred everything to IJ. Its now up to me to fix the LJ user tags since the python script automatically changed them to IJ usertags. Other than that, I will be leaving soon. Im still not sure what to do about the communities I run.

Anyhow, my IJ account is under the same name I use here. Let me know if that is you and Fey's resting spot.

Kat

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rialian September 20 2007, 15:57:38 UTC
===Agreed on most counts.

==Personally, I intend to maintain a presence, and point out the other places so that folks have an easier time, and the networks get less centralized, but more communicative.

===Has anyone developed a client that would allow folks to post a blog/journal to multiple spaces at the same time? If there were an easy tool to do so, I suspect that a lot more folks would be less dependent on one journal to network with.

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A couple of points you gloss colubra September 20 2007, 16:17:54 UTC
Berkowitz tried at least 4 different 'legal' arguments- you cite one of them.
There were other less spurious ones.
Also, in your explanation of the Great Strikeout, you neglect to mention that copyright infringement was cited at one point as the reason for striking the snape-and-harry knobgobbling.

I'm intrigued how Berko's replacement will affect things. The problem, to my perception, is not that Berko was an idiot (which I also think he was), but rather that the support staff are neither supportive nor staffish (see your ref. to efw, above).
If your staff decides to tagteam people who pay their salary on a comm devoted to a mock flame war, there really is a bit of a problem of perception between what is smart and what is happening.

I might abandon LJ at some point- but that'll be when everybody else is somewhere else, as I bought a permanent account a while back.

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a bit more than a bit more than $.02 colubra September 20 2007, 16:27:13 UTC
Oh, also, to quote from the lj_biz 'my clarification of policies is pastede on yey' post:

To start with, the ground rules: We accept all reports of potential child pornography that are reported to us, regardless of the source, but will only take action when that material violates our policies.
Note that their policies do incorporate some rather strongly worded suggestions that a user isn't going to do things like violate copyright (see: artwork of copyrighted characters, drawn without license, engaging in sexual intercourse. See also Tijuana Bible). There's no need to flip out about misapprehended kiddy porn when appropriately apprehended copyright violation has been on the table for the whole discussion.

That means we will accept reports even from people or groups that are annoying or have an axe to grind, but if content is not in violation of the policy, it won't have any effect. We will only review private content for violations of this policy if the report provides a reasonable basis for us to believe that there is a violation ( ... )

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Re: a bit more than a bit more than $.02 straytenebrae September 20 2007, 17:39:51 UTC
Not quite a tempest, and not quite a teacup.

On one hand, LJ/SA is no longer sheltering users (as much). Like a bad parent, it is just kicking them out into the cold, with little warning or support.

On the other hand, LJ/SA is breaking a social contract that it entered back when it was just starting out and seeking users. It promised a safe haven to the questionable masses, and grew a devoted network because of that protection.

Both of these are valid arguments.

The real issue I see is the fact SA/LJ is becoming an opaque company. LJ used to be very transparent about corporate decisions and direction. This bought LJ a lot of user trust and understanding. These days, Users get SA/LJ press releases, not genial updates from the decision makers. A little disheartening and shocking that.

What we really have here is the corporatisation LJ, as it truly adopts SA policies. A sad thing, but not an unheard of.

Unrelated note: that icon is great thing.

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Re: a bit more than a bit more than $.02 colubra September 20 2007, 17:45:09 UTC
Yeah- a lot of the issue here really boils down to '6apart has a different business model than LJ had when 6A didn't own it'.
Unfortunately, 6A has a long history of making kind of dubiously thoughtful business decisions.

on the unrelated note: thanks! Oddly, I've gotten 3 compliments on this icon in the last week-- and I've had it for the entire lifespan of the account. I don't know what's up with that.

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aelfsciene September 20 2007, 16:38:39 UTC
Thanks for making this post; I've not been paying a great deal of attention to LJ's antics while I've been busily turning my life upside-down, but I have to agree with your sentiment of not supporting a company whose practices are becoming more and more distasteful.

It turns out my account is paid for through next November, very much to my surprise, but I've already grabbed aelf over on GJ, as a just in case, and may end up switching before my paid's expired, if things get bad enough.

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beckastar September 20 2007, 17:49:31 UTC
i completely understand your reasons for leaving. it is sad that you feel this is a necessary step; nobody's journal should be watched by reactionary asshats.

do keep us all posted .. i presume there will be an RSS?

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rmjwell September 21 2007, 03:57:13 UTC
Does this extend to keeping free accounts from whihc you can read people who are staying on LJ?

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