On Cross and the Bookman Clan

Feb 22, 2010 15:54

Well, hello everyone~  I must admit that there's something that has been bugging me for a while now, and I thought about posting it here to speculate/share theories/create a possible discussion about it.

I'd like to know if I'm the only one who thinks that, maybe, Lavi is a bit too young to be the immediate successor of the Bookman.

Elaboration would be right under a cut, of course )

lavi, theories, cross marian, !question, bookman

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bloodiedangle February 22 2010, 21:10:40 UTC
Your icon is <3

There is speculation that the Bookman Clan is a rather large organization. After all, what's the chance that two of two bookmen had usable innocence? I think Bookman only picked Lavi up for his eye(or whatever's under the patch).

As for Cross... half fasion statement, half for using the skull thing that's part of his innocence.

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are_late February 22 2010, 21:59:16 UTC
Ah, thank you~! ♥

Yes, that's what seems to be most likely. So it is probable that there were tons of other apprentices, but Lavi was the most capable out of all of them. And it looks like he was the youngest, too. Maybe Bookman took so long in picking his successor because he was waiting for the "right one" (i.e. capable, compatible with the innocence) to come?

Oh, really? Where did you find that out? 8D

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bloodiedangle February 22 2010, 22:35:42 UTC
I don't know about Bookman specifically looking for an innocence user because they didn't decide to go to the Black Order until Lavi was 16. That's part of the reason I think there are more than one Bookman. But then, what's the chance that the bookman we know AND Lavi had innocence, so who knows. Maybe it isn't a big deal. *definately hopes it is xD*

Oh, and that's just my guess. Cross is one big mystery, so maybe we'll find out oneday. :D

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are_late February 22 2010, 23:31:42 UTC
That's true, but then again... They've been dealing with the Holy War and akumas since the beginning, right? *hopes so, too~*

On Cross, the reason I'm asking it's maybe due to my brain being funny and that maybe it's been mixing to completely unrelated things together. Buuut, I must admit that it bothers me that Cross wears his mask to hide his right eye. Very much like Lavi's eye-patch.

In the first artbook, Hoshino put a rather interesting picture of Bookman's right eye on his profile page. His right eye changed just when he found that the transformation of Lenalee's innocence was something worth recording. Since that moment, and from what Lavi said in his reverse novel about the eye-patch, I've thought that all Bookmen (or rather, the "chosen ones") have this ability on their right eyes to record things.

And, you know, Cross definitely does know an awful lot of things. Plus, he has red hair I'm not suggesting that he's Lavi's long lost father, or anything XD It's just... I'm trying to connect the dots.

It could be possible ( ... )

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grayhour February 22 2010, 21:16:12 UTC
My thought is that it is QUITE POSSIBLE that there were other apprentices before Lavi. However, being a Bookman isn't the easiest job, seeing as you have to give up your humanity to become a Bookman, and it's likely that you'll be killed while recording valuable history. So I'd say that any other apprentice Bookmen probably either

a) dropped out, because they were too much individuals to become Bookmen
b) went completely crazy because of the things they've seen/learned
c) were killed, either in action or because they dropped out of being Bookmen, and knew too much.

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are_late February 22 2010, 22:17:48 UTC
So far, it seems the most plausible explanation. That's what I thought, actually. Everybody else dropped out/weren't capable enough and little Lavi was the one to stand up for the Clan.

Hmm, that makes me wonder about the reaction of the Clan itself, and how they organized themselves in this kind of situation. Could the apprentices bail that easily? They were probably killed, as you say, when they tried to escape. It'd be pretty obvious, then, that the Bookman clan is quite a large organization with many members scattered around the world. Or maybe they do have a permanent, hidden location somewhere. And the current Bookman with his apprentice are the only ones let out to witness the world's events as the other members of the Clan remain hidden in said location, protecting the records and putting them into place.

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mellmell February 22 2010, 23:21:18 UTC
I also think that there has to be other Bookmen. How two people can record things that are going on all over the world is beyond me. :/
I don't know what Bookman's got goin' on, but I don't think there is just one of them. There can't be. I:

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are_late February 22 2010, 23:34:45 UTC
Certainly. What would only two of them do with all this records? Or, it could also be that Bookman and Lavi are just some of the few that are left? It could also be plausible that the Bookman Clan got extinct at some point in history.

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kara_angitia February 25 2010, 15:02:45 UTC
*long post is long ( ... )

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are_late February 28 2010, 16:42:34 UTC
Ah, so I'm not the only one! XD

Very good points you have there, and surely there are many others that in retrospect would happen to be quite revealing.

Yes, there are so many blanks in Cross story. I, as well, think he's still alive, but I don't think he'll let himself be seen ever again. That'd leave his past solely to the flashback I DO HOPE Hoshino will fill in sooner or later.

The question would certainly fall on the mysterious Bookman clan, and how everyone who's anyone in the War seems to have heard/know about it, but nobody really seems to know what it truly is about or its purpose, for that matter.

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Maybe im the only one but...>> anonymous March 2 2010, 04:30:47 UTC
I dont think. Cross has anything to do with the bookman at all actually(other then being in the order with them).I like to think he wears a mask cuz he has a hideously deformed scar on his face, and thay he can just manipulate the mask using magic the same way he manipulates marias body. Oh and in responce to someone up there i think chomsuke refered to lavi as junior cuz thata how cross knew\described him. ....and as for lavis eye, it leaves me really befuddled cuz when he was fighting with allen after road took him over it gave him magical super strenght and a face tattoo...so really at thiz point i think it could be anything from a giant swerlling vortex to rabbit yoshi .-.

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