FSTDT - Two For One

May 28, 2008 22:44

 
 The last one was getting a little long, and I wanted to give this person (I think female) special attention.

 Judgemental Rape Counselor

I was doing counseling with victims of sexual assault at a secular agency. Yes, I understand that what a woman wears has nothing to do with "traitional" rape (which is a matter of control and/or anger, not sex ( Read more... )

rape, sexism, wtf

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lyssie May 29 2008, 03:26:17 UTC
Aside from that, how insulting to the men that they're nothing but animals who can't control themselves.

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desert_vixen May 29 2008, 03:56:49 UTC

That's kind of my point behind the whole "and they say feminists hate men because we want them to act like grownups". Because any guy who can't control himself and plays into the guy as animal stereotype? Doesn't deserve to be called a man.

Yet, if the men can't control themselves, why do they get to control everyone else?

DV

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crazysoph June 20 2008, 20:51:12 UTC
Yet, if the men can't control themselves, why do they get to control everyone else?

Word.

Crazy(just moseyed on over from pecunium's journal)Soph

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desert_vixen June 21 2008, 02:57:39 UTC

Welcome!

DV

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garpu May 29 2008, 03:26:18 UTC
Oh good lord. I wonder if that person thinks that domestic violence is the fault of the victim. Is stupid like that inherited, or do they have to work that hard to be that dumb?

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desert_vixen May 29 2008, 03:57:13 UTC

I'm going to go with natural gift for stupidity.

DV

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tiferet May 29 2008, 03:40:37 UTC
Yeah, and also? I've had idiots try and bug me when I was walking home at night in my floor length skirt and long-sleeved shirt. Modest dress decreases the amount of garbage in my life but it doesn't eliminate it because some men are just fucking assholes; dressing in revealing clothing does attract more of them, but that's just because they're unimaginative entitled asshats. They have rape in all those places where women wear burqas. Some people just don't get it. :)

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Look! It's a novel for you. desert_vixen May 29 2008, 04:04:19 UTC
Hear me loudly not disagreeing with you ( ... )

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desert_vixen May 29 2008, 15:28:26 UTC

I get really sketchy about a lot of clothes now because of the show-off issue. I've had a child and to be honest, never really had a cute flat little tummy anyway.

I also despise the damn lowrider jeans because I don't actually enjoy accidentally flashing people. Luckily Old Navy has started making the fitted "perfect tees" a bit longer.

What it is about the uniform is that whether I lose or gain pounds, it's harder to tell. And I wear small uniforms.

DV

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betray802 May 29 2008, 05:12:51 UTC
My pretty-much-everyday wear is a pair of jeans, and a T-shirt with as many X's in the size as I can get. I have a handful of 'fitted' shirts. (This is creating a huge problem with a friend back in VT who is trying to send me U. of VT clothes. Someone in the sizing department at the Bookstore needs their head checked. Their 'medium' is my 'too small ( ... )

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desert_vixen June 1 2008, 19:32:38 UTC

Is it hypocritical that I looked at some of the other girls at the Federation Ball and said to myself, "OMG, does your mother know you're out in public like that?"

Only if you said it to them out loud. :)

DV

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daveamongus May 30 2008, 17:59:17 UTC
While I grant that getting drunk with someone you don't know well is not smart, rape is not a punishment for stupidity.

This has stuck with me since yesterday when I read it... not because I disagree with it, but because I think it's interesting (and appalling) that society thinks there are acceptable punishments for stupidity, and that death is one of them. As are dismemberment and lousy elected officials. I've found myself withdrawing more and more from what passes for comedy these days because it essentially relies on one finding it hilarious to see stupidity, even if its the only example in a life otherwise characterized by intelligence and common sense, punished by death, maiming, or abject humiliation.

And lets not even get started on the idea of prison rape being an acceptable punishment for any sufficiently heinous crime.

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kk1raven June 1 2008, 16:37:10 UTC
I don't find a lot of so-called comedy funny and I think you've hit the nail on the head as to one of the big reasons for that.

Rape is just never an acceptable punishment or consequence for someone's actions, whether stupid or criminal.

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desert_vixen June 1 2008, 19:31:20 UTC

To me, personally, when people start the chorus of "Well, what did she think was going to happen/why was she wearing that/why did she drink with them/etc?", what I get is that bad judgment is the reason the woman was raped. You know, not that the rapist had anything to do with it.

Bad judgment is bad, but it isn't criminal - unless said bad judgment leads you to commit an actual crime. Also, if the woman has to pay the price for bad judgment, doesn't the man?

Check on the comedy.

Check on the prison rape as well. That just makes me grind my teeth in frustration every time I hear it.

DV

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