So I have issues with Spock/Uhura...

[denorios]

I don't know why I didn't post about this before, way back in 2009 when it was first an issue. Because I had issues with it then and I didn't post about it, and my issues then are less issues now with the second movie, and yet here I am posting

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[denorios]

And whether it's playing favourites or deliberately not playing favourites, either way his relationship with Uhura is compromising his ability TO DO HIS JOB. And that is not Spock! Spock would never have put himself in that position in the first place, and as you say, if he had reasons for embarking on a relationship with a cadet, we never see them, we're not privy to them. And I just can't see any reason compelling enough for Spock to act so damn ILLOGICALLY!

[rachel2205]

I can't help feeling that Spock/Uhura was invented to diminish Spock/Kirk in the new franchise. Which clearly doesn't work in the 2nd film since it seems to be entirely about Kirk trying to make Spock admit he loves him. ;) But given TOS has Spock, Kirk and Bones's friendship be the main way that Spock stays in touch with his humanity, trying to do that through a romantic relationship seems a bit cheap and also unnecessary. I would have liked Uhura to have more screentime on her own merits, rather than as a &1.

[denorios]

Yeah, I don't especially like seeing Uhura as a +1, rather than as a kickass woman in her own right. Too many of her scenes revolve around her relationship with Spock for my comfort. I know she gets to do things in her own right, but other than talk to the Klingons and shoot Khan, what else does Uhura do that doesn't involve Spock?

[slavelabour]

This is me nodding my head in agreement. I was just griping about that in my blog, because Uhura in the latest film bothered the shit out of me. When she's dressing Spock and kissing him and telling him she'd see him in a few seconds, it came off as borderline maternal, and then later she's so butthurt she needs to hijack a mission long enough so she can have words with Spock? And then Spock takes the hijack and gives an emotional monologue, too? REALLY? It's not the Spock I know, so I don't even know why we keep getting Spock Prime in the films if that's supposed to be the same man? The parallel is BROKEN already. God, it's like reading bad fanfic of characters you know are better than this, but the author can't stop telling you one thing and showing you another.

[denorios]

That is what it feels like - bad fanfic, you're right. Like, you can see the rough edges of the character you know, but they've molded the character to fit the story, rather than the other way around.

And that's one of my major peeves with storytelling, it was one of the major reasons I fell out of love with Star Trek Voyager. The character should be inviolable, if you're telling a story and X character wouldn't do Y, then it's the story that needs to change, not the character!

I think we've had this conversation before about OOC with Ezra and Vin and Chris, and it's the same principle. It's just not logical for a character like Spock to get involved with a cadet whilst he's an instructor at the Academy. It goes against the very fundamentals of his nature.

[slavelabour]

Yes, we have discussed the Mag7 fanons. I don't remember if I replied to your rant some time ago about how the guys are so often written as completely opposite of their canon, but it made me chuckle because it's true. I rarely read Mag7 fic these days, but lack of fic doesn't affect my love affair for the canon boys at all. I'm still madly in love with them. :)

Now that I say that, do you read

[blossomdreams]

This all of this I've given a similar rant to my family and friends. My family are trekkies and when we watched the new movie we really didn't like the relationship between Spock/Uhura and this explains my problems with it. I just didn't like how it came about. I really didn't like any of it I didn't like how Spock was portrayed when the relationship came up. I haven't seen the second movie yet, but I hope they don't try to push this relationship as much in the second film as they did in the first one.

[stageira]

There's not much to say on this except: "word".

I have been on the edge of this rant on Uhura since the 2009 movie came out, but I always end up doing something else or just mumbling to myself about it.
My reasons for being upset? Exactly the same as yours, just argh.

And if I hear the words: "strong, modern woman" one more time I might have to hit someone. Really hard. That's not the example I would ever want to give to a child, ever.

*grumps*