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Apr 20, 2008 16:46

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motomike14 April 23 2008, 02:45:54 UTC
For me, I think mathematicians are trained for the world in terms of patterns, which then form relationships. A simple example is connecting math to biology. As a mathematician, I seek to find something in real world data that relays something, whether it be connected to a simple equation, large concept like graph theory or linking a problem to mathematical method to solve it. But in some aspects, these are our "perfect" models because we are trained to apply something happening in the real world, which may or may not be proven, to a mathematical concept that is proven.

Just my two cents.

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pwnd detinith April 24 2008, 06:52:10 UTC
I see the universe as an ongoing calculation. For every piece of information that interacts with another piece of information, a new bit is created to represent the result, which then continues with the rest of the information used in the last calculation. This means everything affects everything. Humans are the only known sentient beings; there are many interpretations of that, but mine is that we use latent (stored in DNA like impulses) and acquired memory in the form of reactions created by 'emotions' that express the current state of calculation that we have been exposed to, further contributing to it ( ... )

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Re: pwnd denkidaisai April 24 2008, 18:34:30 UTC
The only problem with that is that we do not have enough energy to keep creating new bits in this universe. This much has been proven... so how do you defeat the fact that the universe always ends up at zero entropy?

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Re: pwnd detinith April 24 2008, 22:20:37 UTC
Bits aren't any physical entity but just a construct. Going from computer to universe, bits go to information. So long as there are calculations happening, new information is being created from old, while the new and old continue to make new. It's not any concern of matter or energy; it's a look at what time really is and how matter is so intrinsic to it; the processing of information of matter isn't just something happening, it's what we perceive as time ( ... )

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Re: pwnd denkidaisai April 24 2008, 22:37:37 UTC
When computers are designed, bits do not carry information about other bits and certainly at the most basic, discrete level of the universe, those atoms do not themselves carry more information outside of their physical nature - if they do, then you are acknowledging that there is something beyond our universe keeping tabs on that information - whether we be inside a computer simulation that is all part of some ongoing communication or not. If you acknowledge anything outside of this universe then by definition that can be God - especially in the philosophical sense of the word ( ... )

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