Theory? Discussion? Something about those dead Durins that broke my heart
This probably should go to tumblr but making long posts there broke my eyes and flash and I'm a bit scared of having opinions there. Anyway, I saw something today about Thorin being a private citizen and Fili and Kili not being raised as princes ("We grew up on tales of the Mountain...") and how that affected the quest (only 13 dwarves instead of
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In the book, Thorin is the arrogant King, without any doubt, not a ceremonial figure but one who expects obedience from his subjects.
There's very little about dwarves in the Silmarillion, though for what there is, check out http://askmiddlearth.tumblr.com/tagged/dwarves
In the movie canon, Kili and Fili are clearly princes, brought up with a certain self-regard, also their gear is much nicer than the others. The background books say so very clearly, so the part of fanon that says they were dirt poor is AU in that way.
But I'm not sure that it follows they and especially Thorin felt secure in Ered Luin, things go wrong. It isn't clear how desperate Thorin was, and how much the company was a last resort.
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I think film!Thorin was less likely to grab whoever and whatever was available for him for this quest. He's an experienced warrior so I think some planning must've have gone into this but then I can't think of a reason why he brought 12 random dwarves with him, some of whom aren't even warriors at all. This decision makes more sense for book!Thorin who was a far less charismatic leader (and rather whiny, if I may add) and seems to be more relaxed than film!Thorin during the quest.
I don't know. I'd like to think that no matter how desperate the situation, Thorin (whether book!Thorin or film!Thorin) wouldn't randomly choose a small number of dwarves, but I can't think of a good reason why he selected his company. I actually stopped writing a fic because I couldn't explain it at all.
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