Fred and protective men

Sep 16, 2010 11:07

I was talking about Fred over at blackfrancine's journal, and (among other things) said the following:

Fred is a survivalist. Utterly. She will do whatever she can to keep herself safe. (Being enslaved in another dimension will do that to you ( Read more... )

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gingerwall September 16 2010, 02:29:28 UTC
I don't have anything thinky to add, just... wow. I never noticed it that way. I'm going to go ponder the meaning of that for a while.

I wonder if the writers constructed her relationships that way on purpose, or if it just kind of happened subconsciously based on what kind of character they thought she was.

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pocochina September 16 2010, 02:43:54 UTC
The AtS dichotomy here is really disturbing, at this glance: men are either unsafe, or protective. Which, "safe" should always be an available baseline for a relationship regardless of protectiveness, but Fred doesn't seem to be able to find a genuine partner. I think that's part of what I really enjoy about Supersymmetry. Wesley helps her. He doesn't step in and decide to do stuff for her.

Conviction: Knox helps her with stuff. He's not particularly safe, but he's also not unsafe...
Fred starts going out with Knox.

It also never seemed to me like she was particularly into Knox, if that makes sense. He seemed like fun, and maybe in the immediate aftermath of the mindwipe that seemed okay (and IRL it is okay and perfectly healthy to just give something a try, just not in Fred's world), but as soon as their current reality (which is still very dangerous) sets back in, it's not enough any more.

(Also hi! :))

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deird1 September 16 2010, 02:56:24 UTC
I think that's part of what I really enjoy about Supersymmetry. Wesley helps her. He doesn't step in and decide to do stuff for her.

Agreed. I rather like that.

(Hi!)

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goldenusagi September 16 2010, 08:25:10 UTC
That makes a lot of sense! I wonder if they planned it like that. Probably not, LOL.

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ever_neutral September 16 2010, 09:15:24 UTC
Yep. This is quite how I see it too!

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curiouswombat September 16 2010, 12:59:21 UTC
Makes sense to me ...

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