Weird Punctuation Decisions

Apr 16, 2010 09:22

I’ve been corrected in the comments to my last post for pluralising “Mary-Sue” incorrectly ( Read more... )

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me_llamo_nic April 15 2010, 23:36:34 UTC
I'd just take the plural away from the name. Five people named Louis. Two Slayers. Eight Kings named Henry. Titles and other pronouns seem like the way to go. Mostly, "be consistent" is the most sensible advice I've seen. Readers will figure it out as long as you're consistent.

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deird1 April 15 2010, 23:45:38 UTC
Mostly, "be consistent" is the most sensible advice I've seen. Readers will figure it out as long as you're consistent.

*nods*

It seems to come up a lot. My style guides keep saying "Well, there's this option, or this other option, or possibly this option. But remember: BE CONSISTENT."

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snickfic April 15 2010, 23:52:56 UTC
I'm big on apostrophes for pluralizing weird things. Like, I still say B's and 1960's, even though apparently the fashion is to go without apostrophes nowadays. So, hip hip hooray to Mary-Sue's.

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lavastar April 16 2010, 01:57:35 UTC
I totally do the B's thing, cause otherwise it looks funny, but sometimes I like how a decade looks with no apostrophe. 1960s. It just looks hip. IDK, I'm weird.

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rahirah April 16 2010, 00:14:00 UTC
I loathe the apostrophe-adding route with the passion of a thousand fiery suns. Just plain Marks and Buffys would be my choice.

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deird1 April 16 2010, 02:46:49 UTC
So, how would you pluralise Louis?

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rahirah April 16 2010, 03:24:13 UTC
Louises. Basically I'd use the same rules to pluralize proper nouns that I would to pluralize common nouns.

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rahirah April 16 2010, 03:25:43 UTC
(With the exception that proper names ending in y wouldn't get the 'ies' ending, because, well, they're someone's name.)

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anonymous April 16 2010, 00:35:59 UTC
What's your opinion on using a pluralistic third-person pronoun in place of a singular non-gendered third-person pronoun? ("They" instead of "he" or "she".)

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deird1 April 16 2010, 00:40:51 UTC
I'd say it's fine for short paragraphs, but when used over and over it starts making sentences fairly ambiguous - too many things that could be "they" in the one example.

I rather like the way RPG books handle things: D&D alternates between "he" and "she", and the Buffyverse RPG says flatout that women are the heroes in the Buffyverse, so "she" is used as the default.

One of my books on editing has "she" used for the author and the editor, and "he" for the publisher and the designer...

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stormwreath April 16 2010, 11:42:05 UTC
Heroquest says in the introduction that they will use "she" for the Narrator/GM and "he" for players, as a default throughout. Similar to your last example.

Alternating pronouns sounds logical, until you get he GM beig referred to as "he" then "she" then "he" again all within the course of a single paragraph. :-)

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kitty_poker1 April 16 2010, 00:41:40 UTC
I'm not a fan of the unnecessary apostrophe. It's hard enough to learn to use them correctly without complicating matters. Sorry, Jane Espensen, but Buffies is just silly. Buffys is the plural; Buffy's the possessive.

Be consistent is great advice, but consistent and correct is even better.

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deird1 April 16 2010, 00:45:52 UTC
Be consistent is great advice, but consistent and correct is even better.

True - but when books on language all disagree on what the correct form is, what are you supposed to do?

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kitty_poker1 April 16 2010, 00:56:25 UTC
I attempted to address this question some years ago in an essay on betaing, and struck the same problem.

My bible is The Blue Book of Grammar and Punctuation but English is a living language and things change, damn it. *g*

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deird1 April 16 2010, 01:04:59 UTC
Oooh... Links...

It really is ridiculous. My editing class got into a discussion about "Louis' hat" versus "Louis's hat", got so passionate about it that there was soon shouting from both sides of the debate - and half an hour later we still didn't have an answer.

(Personally, I'd say that the S in "Louis" is unpronounced, and when you're talking about something he owns you're pronouncing an S - so clearly it should be "Louis's hat" with the first S silent... but a lot of my classmates are convinced I'm wrong.)

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