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Apr 17, 2012 19:48

Just saw a quote by Obama that sparked a big response in me. (Note: What's below is in no way a reflection of my friend who posted the quote, or her/his views, or anything of the sort ( Read more... )

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hannahrorlove April 17 2012, 23:54:46 UTC
Given the audience he wants to reach, discussing women outside of that context would probably be too much of a stretch for them to fully understand the point. Getting them to understand "women are human" is the first step here.

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deelaundry April 18 2012, 00:04:15 UTC
You're right -- but isn't it sad, that it's still like that? You know I can write that kind of world; I don't like living in it. : (

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damigella_314 April 18 2012, 05:29:50 UTC
I don't like living in it
Word. And, since I am a mother, having my kids live in it. They need to be prepared for a fight.
I am now seriously considering tracking down the original quote and discussing it at length with my twelve-year-old daughter, explaining what is right and what is wrong about it. Because she lives in a dream where both the President and the current (and favorite for the forthcoming elections) Governor are women, none of them good looking in a conventional way. The President is in her second term, and in this world there's no limit to re-elections.

I am scared by the direction the wind is blowing in your country and in mine, to which I will have to go back soon. Sexism is alive and well in Germany too, of course, but such statements would be unthinkable.

I do like Obama a lot.

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flywoman April 18 2012, 00:43:10 UTC
They are also plumbers, and beach bums, and puzzle lovers, and drug addicts, and nuns, and atheists, and a million other things that have nothing whatsoever to do with their relationships to men. Women are perfectly capable of making their own choices because they are people.

Amen, sister.

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taiga13 April 18 2012, 02:56:51 UTC
I'm reminded of McCain responding to a supporter who said Obama can't be trusted because "he's an Arab": no, he's a decent family man. Nice effort, but you just implied that Arabs can't be decent family men.

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damigella_314 April 18 2012, 05:08:53 UTC
And that "family men" are ipso facto trustworthy, or good.

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talulahk April 18 2012, 04:50:49 UTC
Do I believe that this statement is indicative of Obama's views on women? Ahhh - NO. Cases in point: Hillary & Michelle. It's political speak being forced out because of the meshuganah stuff coming out of the other party's 15th century view of women and their *gasp* bleedy parts!

Isn't it fun having Obama backed into a corner by the opposition by issues my *90* year old grandmother said she thought were resolved in the early '60's, i.e. birth control?

Sorry for the preachy. My great-grandmother was a suffragette who chained herself to the White House & Congress in 1919. :}

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