Body Modification/ Employment

[olpluvr]

1. What are your views on tattoos/ piercings/ scarification?

2. Should they make an employer turned off in hiring a person with them?

3. How would a person know if that is the reason he/she did not get hired Vs. qualifications for the job?

4. Are there any jobs where you feel that these modifications are unacceptable?

5. Which piercings would

Comments

[ferret_angels]

My views on tattoos/piercings are pretty simple: If you like 'em, get 'em, if you don't, don't. If you don't like 'em on other people, that's your opinion, but don't judge others who do, or try to push your belief's on those who do

[emaling]

I think people who work with the public shouldnt have unnatural colored hair just becuase there are older people they are servign and younger people [it might scare them :P]
I dont like tats on girls arms for some reason. probably cause they are so small and dangly haha.
thats all i have to comment on yours

Employment

[olpluvr]

What about your views on the judgement of society in general for these views and how easy/ hard it would be for someone to be employed? It's easy to say to not judge piercings/scars/ tattoos on someone but when it comes to being hired, do you think visible ones would negatively impact the employer's decision on hiring you?

Please elaborate and explain your thoughts if you were a manager doing a "mass hiring" and there is a group of teenagers with the same skills needed for the job (give or take a few skills), but a few of the teens had visible body mods. Would you rather take the teenagers with or without the mods-- or could you honestly say that you wouldn't discriminate against the group

Re: Employment

[ferret_angels]

I'm sorry I didn't answer all of the questions in this topic...but I've been finding that the last few posts, very few people are contributing anymore, so my reasoning was, "Why bother if no one else is going to debate/discuss?!". I must say I'm glad this site is back into the swing of things, and hope to see more and more people join in in the future

[emaling]

1) I dont mind tats or piercings as long as they are in moderation.. I mean, I agree that I had waaaaaaaaaay too many but at least I had them when i was young and that I am over them now. I like a few but I don't need to be a pin cushion forever

[xratedouroboros]

1. If you want one, get one. But don't get pissed off about having one later if people prejudge you based on the cultural perception of tattoos, piercings, or ritual scars- That's part of the reason you got a visible one in the first place. If you're not ready to deal with the flak for having a tattoo, piercing, scar... maybe you shouldn't have it, eh?

2. See number 1. I don't care if people have one, but as an employer I'd have to consider how my customers will react. Tone it down for work, or find a job where it doesn't matter.

3. They probably wouldn't. Of course, if professionalism is one of the qualifications for the job, coming into an interview with all yer punk rawk ink and steel on display might show you to not have the qualifications for the job.

4. Depends on the modification. A butterfly tattoo on your ankle isn't going to be a problem. A jacobs ladder, while interesting, isn't going to bug the straights unless you wear really really tight pants. If you're a irish white girl with a full Maori mask, well, that's

[olpluvr]

As an employer, what would be (are?) your thoughts if an "average-looking" person came in, though you could tell under the sleeves are many tattoos? If the person had one or two facial piercings, but looked professional in ironed and decent clothing-- a clean cut look? Also, if the attitude of the person with body mods was honeslty well-mannered- would you be critical and not hire?

For #6, you put: "Depends on the modification, depends on the job, depends on the person". Could you elaborate on what you mean by the last part? Depends on the personality of the person, if the mods suit the person and it flatters his/ her appearance (which can be debated since some don't think ANY can flatter), etc? Generally though, you are alright with mods as a cultural outlook but you feel there should be some decency shown towards an employer... kind of what emaling said

[xratedouroboros]

When I said "As an employer" I meant from the point of view of one, not that I actually employ anyone... just in case that's not clear.

By "depends on the person" I'm pretty much restating the "I never would have expect that sort of thing from you!" type reaction. If you can get half-way into the interview before I notice you have a curved barbell nestled in your eyebrow, that's going to give you a lot of credit, both in having tasteful jewelery and in keeping enough interest focused elsewhere. If you walk in and I say "Oh, hey, this guy has his ears pierced." that will count against you, even if they're fairly tame piercings for all that. I'd be more favorably inclined to a guy with 0g black plugs in his ears than one with 12g fluorescent rings... even though the 0g is the more "extreme" piercing, simply because it's more discreet

[blando]

1. Tattoos/piercings/scarification are perfectly fine mediums of self expression and/or conforming to the popular form of non-conformer-ism. They are clearly visual things and as such are meant to contribute to a particular image that a person is going for, unless of course they are part of some sort of a spiritual ritual a person is taking part in, which in Western society almost never happens. I've always personally found it a little disturbing the overwhelming focus on image that we all have. Trying to present ourselves in the manner in which we'd like to be viewed as opposed to the way we may in fact be. I can't complain too much as we all do it whether we realize it or not

[plurali]

"The public is grossly misinformed and ignorant of tattoing and piercing procedures ("did you get your lip pierced with a gun??" *shudder)"

At least they're asking questions. You promote the idea of ending prejudice, but here you are increasing it. Sorry some people aren't cool enough to be familiar with procedures.

I don't have a prejudice against pierced types. I question the forethought of pierced types, though.