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oryx_leucoryx May 7 2010, 18:46:23 UTC
What’s supposed to be so scary about Lucius anyway?
Books!Lucius (not to be confused with the movies version) is as scary as the plot demands. Last year he scared the governors into suspending Dumbledore, until they decided they weren't scared anymore and begged him to return. I don't think he scared Fudge into cooperating with him, I think he quite charmed him with his ideas and generous contributions. Hmm. He may have scared Rita though. The same way Hermione did.

Oh wait, Snape also learns things. So that’s two. And Dumbledore learns to be celibate to protect the world from his homosexual urges. Which is learning the wrong thing.

Well, Tom learned to avoid Albus (though not well enough). He also learned that power and threats were the way to get what you wanted (burning wardrobes anyone?). Percy learned he had to let his family walk all over him if he wanted to be part of them.

Hermione finally apologizes about Scabbers. There’s that at least. Ron doesn’t apologize for treating her badly, as is the Gryffindor way. Apologies are ( ... )

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sistermagpie May 8 2010, 14:36:14 UTC
It's mostly a tell vs. show thing with Lucius. We're told that he scares people, but he's never particularly scary as a character. He seems more sneaky than scary sometimes. I mean, even him threatening to curse peoples' families would be more scary if he had special powers as a wizard. But instead I wind up thinking...hey, you guys have magic powers too. You never feel that Arthur is in any danger from him--that is, any more danger than Lucius is in from Arthur.

Percy is kind of the poster child for how to lose an argument in the WW.

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oryx_leucoryx May 7 2010, 18:49:19 UTC
Forgot one: Ron’s taken over Buckbeak’s appeal, freeing up Hagrid to no doubt buy another crate full of man-eating animals.

I guess that's when he came up with the idea of crossing whichever creatures they were that gave rise to next year's skrewts.

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sistermagpie May 8 2010, 14:36:34 UTC
LOL! Probably.

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elanor_x May 7 2010, 19:43:20 UTC
it’s supposed to be so scary about Lucius anyway?... I mean seriously, he never seems to be that scary to anyone.

Well, he threatened to curse people's families, had they voted differently, at one point. Forgot where. Lucius is supposed to be scary in a way a cross between a slippery blackmailer and a poisoner is scary. Can't prove anything, yet...

1 - The Slytherin team are all enormous ...because if there’s one thing that gives you an advantage in flying fast ... it’s massive body mass.
2- Marcus Flint smashes into Angelina
3 - Lee tells the Slytherin beaters that they can’t beat the Firebolt. Outward sign of inward grace, boys!
4 - Slytherin, if you see that bashing into someone makes you a dozen points behind, stop doing it.It's all logical. 3-->4 + 1 (helps 2 ( ... )

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oryx_leucoryx May 7 2010, 20:31:15 UTC
May be they aren't so enormous, but just most of them are in the seventh year & they look so in Harry's eyes?

Flint is repeating 7th year. Warrington and Montague are probably 5th years, they play again in OOTP but not in HBP. Derrick and Bole, the beaters, are probably either in 6th or 7th year, because in OOTP they are replaced with Crabbe and Goyle. I don't think we know about the Slytherin Keeper.

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sistermagpie May 8 2010, 14:38:11 UTC
Ha! Good point. Slytherin's actions probably always make a lot more sense if you figure they understand they'll always lose.

I get the impression the Slytherin team really is supposed to be enormous rather than just 7th years. Hulking guys who speak in grunts seem to be common in Slytherin.

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mmmarcusz May 7 2010, 20:00:11 UTC
In fact, everyone in the whole house has enthusiastically created an entourage for Harry. It’s so hard being the unpopular kid, isn’t it?

Imagine how this looks to Malfoy - preening Saint Potter surrounded by toadies and sycophants

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sistermagpie May 8 2010, 14:40:08 UTC
Yup. Sure proof that Malfoy is just jealous. Harry's entourage is only with him because he's so unfairly picked on and is a great guy. Plus Harry's really sharing his Firebolt with the rest of the school by playing for Gryffindor.

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seductivedark May 7 2010, 22:16:29 UTC
If the other person’s wrong, you were automatically right in all things.

Right. So the first person to apologize forfeits the right to be right, conceding that right to the opponent. Which is why Gryffindors are so tenacious - they never want to be proved not-right... With the exception of the Gryff girls who automatically know what mothers used to teach their daughters - to get and keep a man, make him think he's always right and that you absolutely look up to him and cede to him.

Ron really is seeing his future here in Divination!

So, in the end, the books actually do support Divination as a legitimate magical science. Wonder if Rowling realized it.

The Slytherins continue to cheat-badly. So badly I don’t even know if you can call it cheating.

Just had to laugh at this again.

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sistermagpie May 8 2010, 14:41:33 UTC
Divination is probably in reality the greatest science they have. How else do you have your hero triumph in a book like DH? He pretty much rejects independent thought and relying on his own devices from the beginning. The only thing left is to wait for signs from the universe and dei ex machina.

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mmoa May 10 2010, 00:11:04 UTC
Divination is probably in reality the greatest science they have.

The irony of this is that it's completely true. In every other branch of magic they're practically encouraged to ignore the wider world/universe that they have managed by some freak coincidence of genetics to have the power to manipulate. It's only in Divination (and maaybe Potions if I want to be biased as I've always liked chemistry) that they take note of repeated patterns in the world around them and make some - hopefully useful; probably not - extrapolations.

Damn.

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